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  # 2339746 17-Oct-2019 13:21
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JPNZ:

 

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Jas777: Yes.

The other thing will be how they price it. Up the monthly sub or as a separate package. And if a separate package how cater for a test or odi that has lots of rain.

Plus sometimes nz cricket has a year of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka which might not get a great uptake.

 

How Spark prices it? Do you think they will increase the sub from $20, or make it seperate like RWC? Did they do that when they added the other sports? Its a package. Sky doesnt do that either

 

 

It will be interesting if they paid a lot for this I am betting that it won't be $20 a month anymore.

 

On the domestic thing mentioned above by Varkk, rubbish about numbers dwindling because sky got it, numbers have dwindled because NZ domestic cricket doesn't have black caps (or overseas professionals) playing in it. Nobody wants to go down and watch amatuer players play in a crappy domestic competition.

 

Nine australia when it had the rights used to stop FTA coverage in the city where ODI's were played in to force people to go to the game. If you wanted to watch it in Sydney or Melbourne you had to go buy a ticket, when it sold out they put it on free to air. The BBL is a perfect example of bringing back the crowds, Big players, overseas professionals, fantastic added entertainment and average crowds are 20 to 30k. in NZ last year you'd be lucky to get 3k 

 

Spark has about 20% the viewership Sky has and you think thats going to grow cricket in NZ?

 

 

My point was will the $20 increase. Local cricket would be cheap. It doesnt seem popular. Black Caps will be popular but Spark doesn't have offshore series.

 

Sky has rugby, attendances are low. Admission is cheap, but attendances are low. Whether that's due to a paywall or not, no idea.

 

If cricket was on Spark and not Sky people would buy the Spark sub, so you would expect most cricket viewers to continue to view, no matter who was broadcasting it. Unless $20 per month is too costly. What will grow cricket is $, and whoever pays those $, which is now Sky and Spark

 

 


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Just received:

 

 

Spark Sport is pleased to announce a new deal with the International Cricket Council (ICC) to offer viewers access to match clips from some of the biggest fixtures in international cricket from 2019-2023.   

 

The Digital Content Rights partnership includes rights to make available near-live, in-match content, as well as post-match highlights clips (provided by the ICC) on-demand for all global ICC events, including the following major ICC events: 

 

·         ICC Women’s T20 World Cup 2020 
·         ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2020 
·         ICC Women’s World Cup 2021 
·         ICC World Test Championship Final 2021 
·         ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021 
·         ICC Women’s T20 World Cup 2022 
·         ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2023 
·         ICC World Test Championship Final 2023 

 

Head of Spark Sport, Jeff Latch said, “We know that New Zealanders love cricket but understand the challenges that come with finding the time to regularly watch live matches, especially when they are played overseas. So, we’re excited to announce this new ICC deal which gives cricket fans the chance to catch the best highlights clips from all the big games in an exciting short package, available to watch on-demand at a time that’s convenient to the viewer.” 

 

“The ability to watch sports content on-demand is one of the key differences between streaming and traditional television viewing, which makes this new deal an attractive offering to Spark Sport subscribers.”  

 

The new ICC deal is in addition to the landmark deal with New Zealand Cricket, announced recently, which cements Spark Sport’s place as a significant player in New Zealand’s sports viewing landscape, offering viewers a range of premium domestic and international sporting events over Spark Sport at an affordable price and across an array of devices. 

 





 
 
 
 


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  # 2341691 22-Oct-2019 10:58
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So if I understand that correctly, Spark will have some highlights of those tournaments, but the actual matches are on Sky?

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  # 2341708 22-Oct-2019 11:04
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When it said "near live in-match content, as well as post-match highlights"  I took that as delayed coverage plus highlights

 

Hard to know. "Near live in match" may mean delayed highlights? In match seems to overide all the match?


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  # 2341723 22-Oct-2019 12:00
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I wonder if it is something similar to Kayo's "minis" type options. Usually available shortly after a game, condensed highlights version, usually 20-30 minutes long or so.

 

When I first read it, I took it to mean Spark Sport had obtained streaming rights to the games, but Spark's own comments points to highlights only, not full match replays or live streaming.


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  # 2341751 22-Oct-2019 13:09
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they get 6 minutes of highlights after each hour has been played





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This is stupid! Sky has the full rights to all those events. It basically sabotages Sky from internet streaming highlights of any kind.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2342465 23-Oct-2019 14:09
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tdgeek:

 

Jas777: Yes.

The other thing will be how they price it. Up the monthly sub or as a separate package. And if a separate package how cater for a test or odi that has lots of rain.

Plus sometimes nz cricket has a year of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka which might not get a great uptake.

 

How Spark prices it? Do you think they will increase the sub from $20, or make it seperate like RWC? Did they do that when they added the other sports? Its a package. Sky doesnt do that either

 

 

This is a really interesting point. IMO the only domestic cricket worth paying for is International Cricket, and for me personally only ODI's and especially Tests, but for others 20/20's too. And for the domestic summer there are only around 3 months of international cricket, so i suspect that they'll charge a fee for it. They won't up the $20 as that will piss off Football fans and F1 fans, but may add say a summer cricket pass for $99 for instance.

 

But it's a tough one for them to figure out.

 

For me the three most interesting things about this are...

 

     

  1. What does the coverage look like? There's little point in rehashing exactly what SKY did (does), they should be looking to add interest and colour to the feed/coverage.
  2. Commentators - do they just pick up the Sky hacks? You can imagine this is Scotty Stevenson's summer gig now, fronting all the cricket. They should be looking for the best people for the job, not just ex-players. For example, someone like Jason Hoyte (radio host and ex Premier Grade Auckland umpire) would be a great pickup. He does the ACC stuff now and is good at it.
  3. Pricing - as mentioned above, where/how does this all fit in

 

I use Kayo and i assume NZC will have done a deal with Fox/Kayo that will mean all NZ home international games will be screened on their platform, so shouldn't be a major issue for me personally, but still fascinated as to how this will all look.


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dougierydal:

 

tdgeek:

 

Jas777: Yes.

The other thing will be how they price it. Up the monthly sub or as a separate package. And if a separate package how cater for a test or odi that has lots of rain.

Plus sometimes nz cricket has a year of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka which might not get a great uptake.

 

How Spark prices it? Do you think they will increase the sub from $20, or make it seperate like RWC? Did they do that when they added the other sports? Its a package. Sky doesnt do that either

 

 

This is a really interesting point. IMO the only domestic cricket worth paying for is International Cricket, and for me personally only ODI's and especially Tests, but for others 20/20's too. And for the domestic summer there are only around 3 months of international cricket, so i suspect that they'll charge a fee for it. They won't up the $20 as that will piss off Football fans and F1 fans, but may add say a summer cricket pass for $99 for instance.

 

But it's a tough one for them to figure out.

 

For me the three most interesting things about this are...

 

     

  1. What does the coverage look like? There's little point in rehashing exactly what SKY did (does), they should be looking to add interest and colour to the feed/coverage.
  2. Commentators - do they just pick up the Sky hacks? You can imagine this is Scotty Stevenson's summer gig now, fronting all the cricket. They should be looking for the best people for the job, not just ex-players. For example, someone like Jason Hoyte (radio host and ex Premier Grade Auckland umpire) would be a great pickup. He does the ACC stuff now and is good at it.
  3. Pricing - as mentioned above, where/how does this all fit in

 

I use Kayo and i assume NZC will have done a deal with Fox/Kayo that will mean all NZ home international games will be screened on their platform, so shouldn't be a major issue for me personally, but still fascinated as to how this will all look.

 

 

If SS is $20 per month, that's $240 per year. A $90 pass for  Black Caps but just in NZ is very expensive. I'm not aware of any pay tv sport service, that charges a monthly fee then also adds passes onto that. Or do you mean includes the cricket into the $20 then charges a pass for non SS subscribers?

 

If Spark keeps adding sports, then over time the $20 would have to increase


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  # 2343435 25-Oct-2019 11:17
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tdgeek:

 

dougierydal:

 

tdgeek:

 

Jas777: Yes.

The other thing will be how they price it. Up the monthly sub or as a separate package. And if a separate package how cater for a test or odi that has lots of rain.

Plus sometimes nz cricket has a year of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka which might not get a great uptake.

 

How Spark prices it? Do you think they will increase the sub from $20, or make it seperate like RWC? Did they do that when they added the other sports? Its a package. Sky doesnt do that either

 

 

This is a really interesting point. IMO the only domestic cricket worth paying for is International Cricket, and for me personally only ODI's and especially Tests, but for others 20/20's too. And for the domestic summer there are only around 3 months of international cricket, so i suspect that they'll charge a fee for it. They won't up the $20 as that will piss off Football fans and F1 fans, but may add say a summer cricket pass for $99 for instance.

 

But it's a tough one for them to figure out.

 

For me the three most interesting things about this are...

 

     

  1. What does the coverage look like? There's little point in rehashing exactly what SKY did (does), they should be looking to add interest and colour to the feed/coverage.
  2. Commentators - do they just pick up the Sky hacks? You can imagine this is Scotty Stevenson's summer gig now, fronting all the cricket. They should be looking for the best people for the job, not just ex-players. For example, someone like Jason Hoyte (radio host and ex Premier Grade Auckland umpire) would be a great pickup. He does the ACC stuff now and is good at it.
  3. Pricing - as mentioned above, where/how does this all fit in

 

I use Kayo and i assume NZC will have done a deal with Fox/Kayo that will mean all NZ home international games will be screened on their platform, so shouldn't be a major issue for me personally, but still fascinated as to how this will all look.

 

 

If SS is $20 per month, that's $240 per year. A $90 pass for  Black Caps but just in NZ is very expensive. I'm not aware of any pay tv sport service, that charges a monthly fee then also adds passes onto that. Or do you mean includes the cricket into the $20 then charges a pass for non SS subscribers?

 

If Spark keeps adding sports, then over time the $20 would have to increase

 

 

Yes good point, and that is perhaps my point, in that it will be interesting to see what they do.

 

They could do something radical,by charging per sport and even different price points within a sport. For instance you can buy a T20 package only, which gives you access to domestic and international T20's. Or they might simply up the price to $25-30 a month and you get all their sports.

 

They are running out of sports to add that justify the product and any potential price increases as Sky continues to resign most of their offerings, the last big one is the NRL rights, which expire in 2 years i believe.

 

 


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dougierydal:

 

 

 

Yes good point, and that is perhaps my point, in that it will be interesting to see what they do.

 

They could do something radical,by charging per sport and even different price points within a sport. For instance you can buy a T20 package only, which gives you access to domestic and international T20's. Or they might simply up the price to $25-30 a month and you get all their sports.

 

They are running out of sports to add that justify the product and any potential price increases as Sky continues to resign most of their offerings, the last big one is the NRL rights, which expire in 2 years i believe.

 

 

 

 

Supercars is another, if they got that and NRL thats a good slice of Kiwi sportlovers

 

People will get used to the $20 number, its like the Netflix $15 number, thats now normal so I can have everything in the world for $15


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