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  #3010920 16-Dec-2022 15:56
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I'm in the opposite camp as I liked cricket and F1 on spark and not rugby league, afl, netball soccer, rugby on sky. So I think I'll still cancell sky sport and pay for F1

 
 
 

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I think Spark Sport is a considerably better option than Sky's streaming alternative SkySportNow. Image quality is better, UI is better, replays up quicker etc etc.

 

Sky's set-top Box is where they are putting most of their energy, not into streaming.


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  #3010973 16-Dec-2022 18:51
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dougierydal:

 

I think Spark Sport is a considerably better option than Sky's streaming alternative SkySportNow. Image quality is better, UI is better, replays up quicker etc etc.

 

Sky's set-top Box is where they are putting most of their energy, not into streaming.

 

 

Revenue.

 

If you don't have that you do not have a service.




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  #3011079 17-Dec-2022 07:50
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/130790908/end-of-spark-sport-bad-news-for-sports-in-nz-as-sky-tv-regains-monopoly

 

The other side of the coin - this story explains how Sky now basically has a monopoly again.


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  #3011090 17-Dec-2022 08:09
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quickymart:

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/130790908/end-of-spark-sport-bad-news-for-sports-in-nz-as-sky-tv-regains-monopoly

 

The other side of the coin - this story explains how Sky now basically has a monopoly again.

 

 

No, its not and it never was. Everyone is free to buy rights to anything. Is Netflix a monopoly?


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  #3011091 17-Dec-2022 08:24
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Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger 😀 that was the point I took away from that article.


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  #3011092 17-Dec-2022 08:35
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tdgeek:

 

quickymart:

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/130790908/end-of-spark-sport-bad-news-for-sports-in-nz-as-sky-tv-regains-monopoly

 

The other side of the coin - this story explains how Sky now basically has a monopoly again.

 

 

No, its not and it never was. Everyone is free to buy rights to anything. Is Netflix a monopoly?

 

 

Sky will again have a very dominant position, a virtual monopoly when it comes to Sport access. Yes there is a smattering of access on Free to Air and other obscure sources. Netflix is irrelevant as they do not deliver sport that is like comparing Harvey Norman to the grocery duopoly. 




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Pretty disappointed. Spark sport was way better than sky’s offerings.
Does that mean I have endure tvnz produced sport’s content? Argh it’ll be like heading back to the 80s, 90s gross

Kind of a google thing to do, just cancel a service like it’s cool.

What will become of MotoGP coverage??


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  #3011208 17-Dec-2022 11:13
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MikeB4:

 

Sky will again have a very dominant position, a virtual monopoly when it comes to Sport access. Yes there is a smattering of access on Free to Air and other obscure sources. Netflix is irrelevant as they do not deliver sport that is like comparing Harvey Norman to the grocery duopoly. 

 

 

IMO its a free market. Netflix is a good comparison as the vast majority of their content is only on Netflix. So for every one of those contents, its a monopoly according to some. Sport or non sport, any content that is one one place is a monopoly. hence why I feel that word is quite erroneous

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3011209 17-Dec-2022 11:18
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ALTRON: Pretty disappointed. Spark sport was way better than sky’s offerings.
Does that mean I have endure tvnz produced sport’s content? Argh it’ll be like heading back to the 80s, 90s gross

Kind of a google thing to do, just cancel a service like it’s cool.

What will become of MotoGP coverage??

 

MotoGP. The media says Spark are seeking buyers for the non sorted content, probably go to Sky.

 

I feel that TVNZ wants NZ sport, so if its FTA then yes, ads galore. 

 

Im a bit oblivious to Sky or Spark Sport. I could watch both live, or both non live. Clicking  a stream replay is no different than clicking the recorded content. Quality the same. Forwarding through ads or a break is easier on Sky. End of the day, content matters, less than the tin it comes from.


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  #3011214 17-Dec-2022 12:01
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@tdgeek "a free market" not really it is heavily centrally controlled by very tight and expensive licence deal process that is not designed to encourage competition.

Here in Aotearoa probably 90% of sport coverage is controlled in some way by Sky. There is a small amount of motorsport on Three, some delayed coverage on Prime (Sky) and a very small amount on TVNZ.

The Spark example demonstrates how difficult a job any new comer has and the control exerted Sky TV is greater than control impact of the grocery duopoly.

Sky TV uses very monopolistic behavior and the rights owners are very complicent in that monopolistic behavior.

If our market was not an effictive monopoly Sky would and could not attain and maintain their very dominant position.

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It’s a testament to just how much control they have. The fact that they can maintain their position of control whilst offering an inferior product. 


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  #3011223 17-Dec-2022 12:48
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https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/480873/spark-to-drop-sports-streaming-tvnz-gets-cricket

 

I am one happy chappy. I miss my cricket.

 

Lived in Aussie for 30 yrs and when Fox (Sky) starting buying all the OB rights the Fed Gov passed legislation stating that most if not all premier finals series and events of national significance was to be FTA.

 

Yes I know with this new TVNZ deal we are going to have to put up with Ad's, they have to pay for the lights somehow, I wont mind so long as the shows producers do it sensibility. There are always time periods; 1,2 or 3 minutes, where a sport has a dead air spot, so instead of listening to inane commentary, they slot in an Ad.





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  #3011225 17-Dec-2022 12:56
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Senecio:

 

It’s a testament to just how much control they have. The fact that they can maintain their position of control whilst offering an inferior product. 

 

 

If they improved the video quality of Sky Sport Now, that would sort out the inferior product issue? 


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  #3011226 17-Dec-2022 13:00
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MikeB4: @tdgeek "a free market" not really it is heavily centrally controlled by very tight and expensive licence deal process that is not designed to encourage competition.

Here in Aotearoa probably 90% of sport coverage is controlled in some way by Sky. There is a small amount of motorsport on Three, some delayed coverage on Prime (Sky) and a very small amount on TVNZ.

The Spark example demonstrates how difficult a job any new comer has and the control exerted Sky TV is greater than control impact of the grocery duopoly.

Sky TV uses very monopolistic behavior and the rights owners are very complicent in that monopolistic behavior.

If our market was not an effictive monopoly Sky would and could not attain and maintain their very dominant position.

 

I assume that if sport was regulated, so that a few other players could take part that would solve the problem? Sky, and 3 or 4 others could have an even spread of sport.


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