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#3230842 15-May-2024 16:22

jlittle:
For a long time the news on the RNZ concert programme was similarly over-produced. It seems there's only one way to train journalists.

Yup:

A journalist tells a story.

A reporter reports the facts (and leaves it to you to draw your own conclusions).

edit: fat fingers.

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#3230844 15-May-2024 16:27

richms:

MurrayM:

reven:

I don't know anyone who watches tvnz/tv3 on demand or whatever they have.

I watch the odd thing on these. At the moment I'm watching Star Trek Discovery on TVNZ+ because it's not on any of the streaming services that I subscribe to. They also tend to have some very good UK crime dramas.

But you're watching it at a vastly lower quality than paramont+ and other services that the rest of the world gets. three now and tvnz+ are low quality services with ads.

Really video media needs to become like music where all services have a decent catalog of stuff instead of them all being their own little silos of exclusive stuff. Otherwise its a pirate life for me.

I watch quite a bit of TVNZ streamed content and I find myself (again) wondering about the quality snobs out there. But (again) I figure it has to do with me only having a smaller/lower-def TV and thus, well, not caring. The quality is generally good enough and it's good to have access to some good programming without yet-another-subscription. And I agree that there's some good content out of the BBC on it.

Paramount+ is not in NZ so if TVNZ have the distribution license, fine, NBD, and I don't find the service bad enough to push me onto an old wooden ship with a one-eyed one-armed captain.

I imagine this is true for a lot of people; Geekzone members tend to be a little, well, geeky about this stuff and probably don't represent the usual consumer.

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#3230854 15-May-2024 16:45

There are some hidden gems on TVNZ on demand.

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#3230858 15-May-2024 16:54

jlittle:
johno1234:
You get much better news on the radio. Less of the over-produced content, anchor interviewing a reporter schtick, pointless live crosses and so on.
For a long time the news on the RNZ concert programme was similarly over-produced. It seems there's only one way to train journalists.

Not so. This just reflects the competitive environment for a cross section of viewers. You will be surprised the number of people who complain about this and then flip to the channel where the reporter is dancing like a chicken to maintain viewer attention for a few minutes, and stay there.

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#3230923 15-May-2024 18:11

Ge0rge: Country Calendar - that's all that's left on there for me now.

And even that is totally tailored for the townies and greenies. I'm almost ashamed to be farm-raised.

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#3230924 15-May-2024 18:13

MrBBEye:

Ge0rge: Country Calendar - that's all that's left on there for me now.

If only they'd bring back "A Dog Show" too 😁

I'd even settle for re-runs.

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#3230925 15-May-2024 18:23

The content might not be to the taste of those in this forum, but the provider with largest daily reach in NZ (ie the one that the most NZ'ers switch on to each day) is TVNZ. That's if you include linear TV and TVNZ+ together. So not quite dead yet.

YouTube is a close second. IMHO, for no-nonsense NZ news and current affairs on YouTube you can't go past Cheree Kinnear and Madison Reidy - well done NZ Herald.

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#3230932 15-May-2024 18:45

They should KILL NZ radio while theyre at it.

My flatmate has the edge, the breeze running everyday and its pure torture .

inane drivel.

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#3230933 15-May-2024 18:50

MrBBEye: If only they'd bring back "A Dog Show" too 😁

I might watch that. The only problem is I'd never find out it was on.

Just quietly I've watched a few on YouTube I might have to try that again and there we go

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#3230935 15-May-2024 18:56

I am an elderly news hound.

I live on the internet, and subscribe to 5 traditional news sources online: Reuters, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, and The Times (of London).

I haven't watched free-to-air TV for 7 years.

The TV "news" is now a dumbed-down "show", giving stale parochial news coverage squeezed between rubbish commercials. Painful to watch. Rots the brain.

Fortunately National Radio still has some good programs, if you're selective.

/rant 🤨

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#3230945 15-May-2024 20:08

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#3231048 16-May-2024 06:31

johno1234:

without the presenters making themselves part of the news

What are you referring to here?

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#3231120 16-May-2024 09:35

burstattack:

johno1234:

without the presenters making themselves part of the news

What are you referring to here?

Don't need to think very hard to understand this one.

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#3231230 16-May-2024 10:55

burstattack:

johno1234:

without the presenters making themselves part of the news

What are you referring to here?

Well its a bit hard for them at the moment when the news is that the news is getting closed down.

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#3231429 16-May-2024 18:03

mattwnz:

alasta:

Every one of these threads goes the same way. Everyone wants quality news and current affairs but no-one wants to pay for it or even watch ads to fund it. That's how you end up with trash like TVNZ, NZME and Stuff.

As I said in another similar thread, TVNZ should have been privatised back in the 90s when the Bolger government privatised the commercial arm of RNZ.

IMO we should be paying for it through our taxes. We used to have a license fee, which got switched to the government funding it directly from taxes. But I don't know if they have increased this funding over the years. The UK has the BBC for this reason. Although they still have the old TV license thing which is a dated way to charge. But the NZ model doesn't see to work because governments will often try to cut back spending to make their books look better.

TVNZ is not government funded and hasn't been for a long time.

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