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#622667 10-May-2012 08:57

Hi,

Do you guys know it's $5 for a five week trial today?

http://treatme.co.nz/Deal/Auckland/quickflix-nz-ltd-may12cf

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#622684 10-May-2012 09:23

A little bird told me that Sky are thinking of changing MySky so that you cannot keep non pay content past a certain date. At the moment you can leave say a movie on the MySky for ever and still watch it.
Apparently they want to change that. I think this would upset a lot of Sky patrons so it may not happen but will see

jtbthatsme:
Another thing yeah people may want to compare this as a alternative to Sky but sure Sky may have rights and content at the moment but convenience and price again they fail miserably you can't watch whatever you like on Sky whenever you like oh there that added extra though where you can record something once it's screened then play back at your convenience.

You need to compare Quickflix to video stores really. Once the content issue is sorted then it could be classed as a wrthy alternative to Sky, Fatso etc for now low price and convenience is enough for me though.

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#622688 10-May-2012 09:28

Are you sure you are talking about the same service? Quickflix web site has many of the same new content as my video store. Sure it is pay per view at this stage but one would presume if they can do it on pay basis eventually it will pass into the general view later on. Give it time.
If all is equal I would sooner pay Quickflix to watch a new release than go to the video store and rent it.

SiliconAudio: Here's a little test for you all...

Go to IMDb's Top 250 and search for the top 10 movies on the list (from 1957 to 2008, so we're not talking new releases) - not one hit in QuickFlix!

Houston, we have a problem! Find me a video store anywhere that wouldn't have at least a couple of those movies. Like I say, content is king, and QuickFlix isn't even in the ballpark.

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#622717 10-May-2012 09:59

ronw: Are you sure you are talking about the same service? Quickflix web site has many of the same new content as my video store. Sure it is pay per view at this stage but one would presume if they can do it on pay basis eventually it will pass into the general view later on. Give it time.
If all is equal I would sooner pay Quickflix to watch a new release than go to the video store and rent it.

SiliconAudio: Here's a little test for you all...

Go to IMDb's Top 250 and search for the top 10 movies on the list (from 1957 to 2008, so we're not talking new releases) - not one hit in QuickFlix!

Houston, we have a problem! Find me a video store anywhere that wouldn't have at least a couple of those movies. Like I say, content is king, and QuickFlix isn't even in the ballpark.

Did you try the test above? I can't find one of the top ten at Quickflix. Classics like The Shawshank Redemption or any of the Lord of The Rings movies, the Godfather movies or any of the Toy Story movies, etc, etc.

I tried looking for all of my favourite movies and found almost none. Sorry, but their catalogue is pathetic.

EDIT: Out of the top 20 movies on the top 250 IMDB list, I had to get to number 19 before I got a hit (Casablanca). There are no Starwars movies, no Matrix movies, sweet f-all. There's a small video collection at my corner dairy with a better selection than QuickFlix. Again, their catalogue is pathetic.

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#622725 10-May-2012 10:18

Obviously any list is speculative but taking a random browse through Quickflix I find
Ben Hur, Little Women, Dr Zhivago, North by North West, and several other big Hichcock movies, Dirty Dozen, Lolita, High Society, Dracula, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, California Suite, Agatha, serveral Bourne films, Notting Hill, A Few Good Men.

In my world all of the above have rated well when shown and are on most peoples top list of movies.

I am sure the service will grow, but if you people find they prefer the local video store then fine.
What I don't want is Sky's PR team attacking a new service before it is even fully launched with the hope of hindering its success. I can remember when Sky launched and was bleeding red ink all over the balance sheet for several years. It was only judicious help from the governments that got Sky to where it is now.
One wonders if SKY did not sponsor the parliamentary football teams overseas jaunts just how successful it would have been, but thats another story

Go to IMDb's Top 250 and search for the top 10 movies on the list (from 1957 to 2008, so we're not talking new releases) - not one hit in QuickFlix!
Did you try the test above? I can't find one of the top ten at Quickflix. Classics like The Shawshank Redemption or any of the Lord of The Rings movies, the Godfather movies or any of the Toy Story movies, etc, etc.

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#622743 10-May-2012 10:43

SiliconAudio:
ronw: Are you sure you are talking about the same service? Quickflix web site has many of the same new content as my video store. Sure it is pay per view at this stage but one would presume if they can do it on pay basis eventually it will pass into the general view later on. Give it time.
If all is equal I would sooner pay Quickflix to watch a new release than go to the video store and rent it.

SiliconAudio: Here's a little test for you all...

Go to IMDb's Top 250 and search for the top 10 movies on the list (from 1957 to 2008, so we're not talking new releases) - not one hit in QuickFlix!

Houston, we have a problem! Find me a video store anywhere that wouldn't have at least a couple of those movies. Like I say, content is king, and QuickFlix isn't even in the ballpark.

Did you try the test above? I can't find one of the top ten at Quickflix. Classics like The Shawshank Redemption or any of the Lord of The Rings movies, the Godfather movies or any of the Toy Story movies, etc, etc.

I tried looking for all of my favourite movies and found almost none. Sorry, but their catalogue is pathetic.

EDIT: Out of the top 20 movies on the top 250 IMDB list, I had to get to number 19 before I got a hit (Casablanca). There are no Starwars movies, no Matrix movies, sweet f-all. There's a small video collection at my corner dairy with a better selection than QuickFlix. Again, their catalogue is pathetic.

the problem is how your thinking about quickflix.

ive been a netflix user for ages now, it doesnt have all the latest and greatest movies available all the time, they rotate them in and out. very similar to sky movies.

does sky movies have any of those top 20 movies available this month? probably not. but they have other movies to watch this month, and then next month they will have others.

this is how it works, they will have so many movies say 400 available each month due to licensing, if they had all the good titles in one month, they wouldnt have any for the next month.

by having a wide range of movies (which they do, lots of different genres up there) they can cater for you to watch something interesting pretty much every night of the week and then next month (well they seem to be adding stuff quicker than each month :)) they will have more movies.

dont slam the service because it doesnt have the matrix or the godfather, its just not how it works. if you want an online video store use itunes and pay per movie, if you want a on demand movies service that is subscription based this is how they work.

that being said, its still not perfect and the tv selection is pathetic, but their main target is movies at the moment so its only reasonable that they are concentrating on adding new movies.

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#622765 10-May-2012 11:12

reven: the problem is how your thinking about quickflix.

ive been a netflix user for ages now, it doesnt have all the latest and greatest movies available all the time, they rotate them in and out. very similar to sky movies.

does sky movies have any of those top 20 movies available this month? probably not. but they have other movies to watch this month, and then next month they will have others.

this is how it works, they will have so many movies say 400 available each month due to licensing, if they had all the good titles in one month, they wouldnt have any for the next month.

by having a wide range of movies (which they do, lots of different genres up there) they can cater for you to watch something interesting pretty much every night of the week and then next month (well they seem to be adding stuff quicker than each month :)) they will have more movies.

dont slam the service because it doesnt have the matrix or the godfather, its just not how it works. if you want an online video store use itunes and pay per movie, if you want a on demand movies service that is subscription based this is how they work.

that being said, its still not perfect and the tv selection is pathetic, but their main target is movies at the moment so its only reasonable that they are concentrating on adding new movies.

Right, gotcha. I've never used Netflix and the like, so didn't know how it worked. It would be fair to say then that I am probably never likely to use it. I like to be able to watch the movie I want when I want to watch it. I'm not the sort of person to browse through a bunch of titles and randomly pick up a movie to see what it's like. I usually have clear intent.

Given your explanation, I will stick with Fatso and not expect Quickflix to be something it's not. In the same way, I have never had Sky. A movie channel playing something I hadn't planned to watch is no interest to me. I would only ever have Sky if I could subscribe to the one or two sports channels I want and that's never likely to happen either. I guess I fall outside the usual demographic in that regard.

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#622779 10-May-2012 11:28

quckflix in australia is still bleeding red ink on the balance sheet, years after its launch (something to the tune of $20 - 25mio aussie), it has yet to turn a profit, and thats with a population target of what, 5x nz (or whatever it is), there must be some extremely long term thinking investors

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#622790 10-May-2012 11:45

sen8or: quckflix in australia is still bleeding red ink on the balance sheet, years after its launch (something to the tune of $20 - 25mio aussie), it has yet to turn a profit, and thats with a population target of what, 5x nz (or whatever it is), there must be some extremely long term thinking investors

Yeah, but long term is the only way to think about this from a business perspective. Look where a lack of long term thinking got the music industry, what 10 or 15 years depending on how you cut it and they are still bleeding.

I think the thing with a service like QuickFlix is that the industry have to accept (and to there credit they seem to be getting it) that online delivery isn't going to go away, it is going to grow.

It almost doesn't matter what your online delivery strategy is, whatever it is will change and evolve over time, what matters is that you have an online delivery strategy.

Or to put it another way: Do the exact opposite of everything the music industry has done since the first person said 'MP3'.

Sure, QuickFlix isn't perfect. I don't want a subscription right now. But this is very early days. personally I think I'll be signing up in six months, if they actually deliver on most of the promises they made on launch.

I think the industry have to make this work because the other option is cede the online delivery field to the pirates and iTunes. Again, look at the music industry. Do you think the movie industry want to go down that road?

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#622795 10-May-2012 11:53

SiliconAudio: I would only ever have Sky if I could subscribe to the one or two sports channels I want and that's never likely to happen either. I guess I fall outside the usual demographic in that regard.

+1

That's me.
I want live sport and they're the only ones to offer it. If I could get that and nothing else I'd be happy. I'm not willing to pay $75 a month, or whatever it is these days, 'justified' by 75 channels of crap I'll never watch just so I can see a few rugby games, a few league games and the F1 races.

I'm interested in streaming TV shows but for movies I want bluray, uncompressed HD audio etc and I'm totally willing to stroll to my local video store to get that for $4 overnight.

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#622806 10-May-2012 12:10

I think that people are not understanding what Quickflix is all about. It is not in competition with Sky. In fact Lachlan Murdoch owns a portion of Quickflix with his private media company. If Quickflix is a big success that portion could easily find its way to News Ltd and dear old Rupert Murdoch.
Quickflix Australia owns a thriving DVD rental service which no doubt will support the streaming service in its founding stages. NZ is just an adjunct to the Australian business so success here depends on Australian success
HBO which is the second biggest TV/Movie Company in the world has a sizeable stock share in Quickflix

They have deals with HBO, Warner, BBC and ITV and while it may take a while to filter stuff through a couple of years down stream it should be an effective TV delivery system

crackrdbycracku:
sen8or: quckflix in australia is still bleeding red ink on the balance sheet, years after its launch (something to the tune of $20 - 25mio aussie), it has yet to turn a profit, and thats with a population target of what, 5x nz (or whatever it is), there must be some extremely long term thinking investors

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#623847 11-May-2012 23:57

Attempted to call and cancel my subscription tonight. Website says "To cancel your subscription, please contact Member Care on 0800 002 098 between Mon-Fri 11am to midnight". Called and pressed option 3 to cancel and it says "please call before 8pm AEST, goodbye".

#fail

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#623864 12-May-2012 01:13

GeoffisPure: Attempted to call and cancel my subscription tonight. Website says "To cancel your subscription, please contact Member Care on 0800 002 098 between Mon-Fri 11am to midnight". Called and pressed option 3 to cancel and it says "please call before 8pm AEST, goodbye".

#fail

Change to Paying via paypal and then cancel the subscription in your paypal account.

I've heard there are other ways as well..

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#624233 13-May-2012 08:43

A couple of months on after buying an Internet TV and joining Quicklix, I am finding it has changed my viewing habits. The local video store closing down recently forced us to online only content. I don't trust Fatso, we had a bad customer service experience with them in the past.

We watch Quickflix when we feel like watching something of our choice but don't want to pay PPV prices for new releases and there is nothing on TV. I'm enjoying watching the older content - e.g. just watched Midway. Probably a 50 year old movie but well entertaining. Still wishing they had more content though.

We now watch new release movies on Xbox via Zune. Seems to have all the current Movie release content. Streams in 1080p (not sure whether true full HD 1080p but looks great to me). About $8 to rent a new release for 48 hours, so roughly on par with DVD rental, iTunes and Quickflix. We don't have an Apple TV (yet) and I don't want to hook up my PC to the TV to use iTunes or Quickflix every time I decide to stream a PPV.

Its a pity Xbox Live in NZ doesn't have TV content on Zune (same old Sky exclusive content limitations?) or Apps like the US and UK - Xbox in the UK has MySky OnDemand (equivalent to iSky here), 4oD, BBC iPlayer etc, as well as live TV. In NZ you can stream some free to air channels off the UK Sky app like Sky News UK if you have a UK Xbox Live account which I do.

Anyone heard whether TVNZ/MediaWorks are working on Apps for Internet TVs? They're way behind the eightball... Also whether Sky are going to bring iSky to Xbox/PS3/InternetTV?

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#624239 13-May-2012 09:21

I'm giving them my money, it's awesome for kids and I can watch the odd movie, they have been adding large amounts of movies over the last couple weeks, maybe even 15-20 films, which is great. When you weigh it up, it's only $10 a month, I spend that on lunch per day, so you know...Small the run of things, and for that I can have 5 computers all signed in, with 3 streaming films at the same time! That's incredible, it's like a family plan for only $10! I can watch movies when I travel, my girlfriend can watch a movie, and the kids can watch a movie, all at the same time. I see it as backup entertainment.

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