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# 141060 28-Feb-2014 11:21
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Hi all,

I know this has been discussed elsewhere but I have never seen a definate answer.  I have just had VDSL installed (today).  A couple of years ago  coffeebaron installed CAT5 from the demarcation point and installed an ADSL2 master splitter, which is still there.  I can connect at 10up and 43 down (attenuation was 7 down before VDSL installed) and I am approx 200m from the cabinet.  I will not be using POTS (obviously) and will be going down the VOIP road.

So my question is - do I need a master splitter at all?  Can I just take the CAT5 direct to the modem?  I did read some comments on other threads that doing this can affect others in the area (I asked the tech from Chorus and he said there seems to be only 1 other VDSL line on the street).

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  # 1004337 12-Mar-2014 15:24
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DarthKermit:
BigPipeNZ: However, I should point out that a master splitter is not required for VDSL in most cases.  It will certainly help (in some cases help a lot), but it isn't absolutely necessary except in rare cases.


No offence intended, but do you have the appropriate technical knowledge to make such a statement? Or is it just a personal opinion that you're expressing?


No offence taken.

We've checked with Chorus (multiple times - including again this morning).  They are happy with us doing it this way.
They own the network and have all the technical knowledge required so they should rightfully have the final say in the matter.

It certainly makes for an interesting discussion to have on geekzone, and I'm happy to have that discussion as long as people keep things civil. Ultimately it comes down Chorus and the decision about their network. 
 
If that changes (and I accept that it may do), we will re-assess. In fact we are constantly re-assessing our business, as all good businesses should.

We're always looking at how we make things better.  Everything in business is ultimately a trade-off though.  If we can find a way to make a master splitter install work as part of the sign up procedure without compromising too much on other important elements of the business (like no contract and no connection fee) then we will.  We've had very few issues so far, and where there is a genuine issue, we sort it.




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  # 1004613 12-Mar-2014 22:13
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We have 2x VDSL connections at work, both with Snap and a master filter was never installed nor discussed, so I think a lot of the hate at BigPipe in this thread is misguided and should be pointed at Chorus instead.

Side note, I'm moving to BigPipe myself later this week and would actually rather not have to be forced to pay for a master filter considering I've put one in myself in at the demarc (& disconnected the rest of the phone jacks in the house at the same time).




 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1004660 13-Mar-2014 07:34
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Peppery: We have 2x VDSL connections at work, both with Snap and a master filter was never installed nor discussed, so I think a lot of the hate at BigPipe in this thread is misguided and should be pointed at Chorus instead.

Side note, I'm moving to BigPipe myself later this week and would actually rather not have to be forced to pay for a master filter considering I've put one in myself in at the demarc (& disconnected the rest of the phone jacks in the house at the same time).


As I have mentioned before, the filter is only part of the solution, the real issue it creating an untapped transmission line from demarc to modem, the filter simply allows you to liven the remainder of the houses network for voice purposes should that service be available. The process of installing "the filter" is probably 10% of the job, creating a single clean transmission line from demarc to modem is the remainng 90%

So maybe we should re name the process as "Transmission Line Optimisation", the purpose of this is to ensure the VDSL signal makes it in optimal condition to the modem.

Often in commerical situations the demarc is in the comms room where the modem is to go and its a naked connection, so yes no filter may have been installed, or if the line also provided a PABX voice line or fax a master filter or simple inline filter is used at the demarc to separate the services, so often its a lot less complex to deploy.

Cyril

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