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  # 1041254 10-May-2014 10:28
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Detruire: I'm currently with Slingshot who provide me with a static (well, close enough: I've only had it change three times in almost five years) IP address

at no additional cost on their unlimited NDSL plan. This suits me just fine, and I'm certain that most other people would be happy enough with such a setup.

With Bigpipe, however, you need the static IP option if you don't want to be dumped into a CGNAT pool,

No, we offer 'sticky' public IP addresses (like you have with slingshot) at no charge, people just need to ask.  
Static IP is not the same thing though.
Slingshot charge $10/month for a static IP


which I'm sure is why most people requesting static IPs are doing so.


I hope not, because they can have a public IP at no charge if they want.



If I am correct, you can't accurately compare your proposed pricing against what other ISPs are charging for their "static IP" option. Instead, you should be referencing what they charge for their "no CGNAT" option.


see above.




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  # 1041259 10-May-2014 10:46
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kyhwana2: So, are you giving out /56 ipv6 static ranges as well? (apparently no)..

Given that people's DSL modems are on 24/7, they're using a IPv4 address 24/7/365. So how do you get off charging for a static IPv4 address in this case? 



the same reason almost every other ISP does....


http://www.snap.net.nz/support/content/3/9/en/can-i-get-a-static-ip-address.html

"Yes, a static IP address can be supplied at a cost of $5.00 a month."

http://help.slingshot.co.nz/pages/releaseview.action;jsessionid=5F5C096E4783233B2B05721A477F3041?pageId=1507486

"An additional charge of $10 per month will apply for a static IP."

http://help.vodafone.co.nz/app/answers/detail/a_id/14591/~/what-is-a-static-ip%3F

"Static IPs are available in our consumer Internet Pack for  $20.40 per month."



and some ISPs don't even allow it at all.......


http://www.orcon.net.nz/support/gfaq_page/what_is_a_static_ip

"Currently the only plan where Static IP is unavailable is the Unlimited data plan on both Broadband and Fibre."

http://www.telecom.co.nz/business/ourproducts/staticip/

"Note that Static IPs are not available on our residential Unlimited Data plans."



(Is this just that fact that your billing/radius/etc backends aren't up to handling this? That's pretty slack given it's 2014 and APNIC ran out of v4 in 2011.. It's been literally over 3 years and you havn't gotten around to rolling out v6.. If you give out a public v4, it should be static, since it will be in use by the same customer 24/7. If you give out a v4 and you aren't charging for it, I don't see how you get off charging for it to be static...)




It's all about priorities for us.

IPv6 just isn't mature enough, and there is very little demand,  so that means there isn't that much point us doing it right now.  Same goes for most other ISPs.  Of the top 5-6 ISPs I believe only Snap is actually doing IPv6 right now.  

We'll get there, but we have limited resource and there are plenty of other much more important things for us to get out the door first (like UFB)





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