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Topic # 165892 23-Feb-2015 20:50
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Just moved to a new place in wellington and got VDSL installation today.
I found that the speed was very slow, especially the upload speed which was < 1mb
I had checked on the chorus, it showed that my place should be able to get > 20 Mbps (with the right modem and plan)
And your website said VDSL can have 20 - 60 Mbps DOWNLOAD and 5 - 10 Mbps UPLOAD
I was very disappointed, should a just go back to the ADSL and save $10!?






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  Reply # 1245182 23-Feb-2015 21:04
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Have you got a master filter installed? If not, then get one.

Hard to read the image, but it looks like the attenuation is pretty high. Either your line simply isn't good enough for VDSL (go back to ADSL), or you have some internal wiring issue that needs to be sorted (master splitter install).

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  Reply # 1245185 23-Feb-2015 21:06
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If you don't have a master filter installed this connection is working as intended.

Please use the search function on Geekzone to read about master filters and how your premises wiring can impact your broadband performance, actually, just read this: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8357

Also, if you just got connected then let DLM actually run.




 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1245187 23-Feb-2015 21:08
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I find it hard to read your stats image - could you give us the stats as text?

Did you have an ADSL connection at your new address before you tried VDSL?
If so, what was your downstream attenuation on ADSL?

Did you have a master filter installed?




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  Reply # 1245201 23-Feb-2015 21:22
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I think there is no master filter installed

Here is my DSL log

DSL Firmware Version 1.0.2.1
DSL Driver Version FwVer:5.5.1.126_A_A60901 HwVer:T14.F7_0.2
DSL Link Status up
DSL Uptime 0 days 8 hours 3 minutes 36 seconds
DSL modulation ITU G.993.2(VDSL2)
Annex mode ANNEX_A
SNR Down 12.1 dB
SNR Up 12.6 dB
Line Attenuation Down 19.6 dB
Line Attenuation Up 52.5 dB
Path Mode FastPath
Data Rate Down 16413 kbps
Data Rate Up 960 kbps
MAX Rate Down 19992
MAX Rate Up 993
POWER Down 18.9 dbm
POWER Up 6.0 dbm
CRC Down 41
CRC Up 4

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  Reply # 1245202 23-Feb-2015 21:24
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Your format broke Geekzone..

Looks normal mate. If you are using a In Line filter this could be your issue,





 


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  Reply # 1245207 23-Feb-2015 21:26
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Attenuation like that on the upstream is a classic case of no master filter installed, and possibly old 3 wire wiring.

Find the master socket, open it up, disconnect the cabling to all the other sockets and see how you get on. If its a really old house there might be some bell or something across the line somewhere that will also screw up DSL.




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  Reply # 1245211 23-Feb-2015 21:38
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My pick would be you've got an inline ADSL2+ filter that's killing VDSL2. Try removing that and see what happens.

If you want the best performance from VDSL2 you need a master filter installed. Virtually every ISP installs one of these as part of a VDSL2 install (as it's included in their monthly pricing), but Bigpipe don't. If you ring them they'll be able to arrange a Chorus technician to visit and install one for $199


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  Reply # 1245223 23-Feb-2015 21:49
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sbiddle:

 

My pick would be you've got an inline ADSL2+ filter that's killing VDSL2. Try removing that and see what happens.

If you want the best performance from VDSL2 you need a master filter installed. Virtually every ISP installs one of these as part of a VDSL2 install (as it's included in their monthly pricing), but Bigpipe don't. If you ring them they'll be able to arrange a Chorus technician to visit and install one for $199

 



I know you know we don't have a call centre :( Biddle pls.

In fairness your speeds are lower than what we advertise VDSL speeds to be, yes. However that screenshot shows you've been online for a whole several hours. A couple of people have mentioned DLM in this thread and it takes roughly ~7 days or so to stabilize out. Between checking your internal wiring and giving it time, please send through a support ticket and we'll see what we can do for you.

Feel free to PM me with your email address after too and I can always chase this up for you :)




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  Reply # 1245225 23-Feb-2015 21:50
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Oops email them. :)

It is strange it's showing a VDSL2 profile but syncing at perfect ADSL2+ speeds.





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  Reply # 1245231 23-Feb-2015 22:01
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sbiddle: Oops email them. :)

It is strange it's showing a VDSL2 profile but syncing at perfect ADSL2+ speeds.






was thinking the same thing but the speeds match the attenuation

if you have your modem pluged into the wall via a filter remove that and try again.

but as mentioned, getting a master filter which seperates out the VDSL signal from the phone signals can make a huge difference.



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  Reply # 1245245 23-Feb-2015 22:22
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richms: Attenuation like that on the upstream is a classic case of no master filter installed, and possibly old 3 wire wiring.

Find the master socket, open it up, disconnect the cabling to all the other sockets and see how you get on. If its a really old house there might be some bell or something across the line somewhere that will also screw up DSL.


I think the upstream is weird, should not be that slow. Which one is the master socket? the box outside the house?? or the phone jacks?









sbiddle: My pick would be you've got an inline ADSL2+ filter that's killing VDSL2. Try removing that and see what happens.

If you want the best performance from VDSL2 you need a master filter installed. Virtually every ISP installs one of these as part of a VDSL2 install (as it's included in their monthly pricing), but Bigpipe don't. If you ring them they'll be able to arrange a Chorus technician to visit and install one for $199



Yea, i think i will arrange a Chorus technician to install the a master filter.

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  Reply # 1245258 23-Feb-2015 22:33
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If you're based in Auckland then CoffeeBaron is your man to talk to, $150 for a legit master filter installation.




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  Reply # 1245269 23-Feb-2015 22:56
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michaelmurfy: If you're based in Auckland then CoffeeBaron is your man to talk to, $150 for a legit master filter installation.


He said in OP - wellington tongue-out





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  Reply # 1245276 23-Feb-2015 23:05
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nakedmolerat:
michaelmurfy: If you're based in Auckland then CoffeeBaron is your man to talk to, $150 for a legit master filter installation.


He said in OP - wellington tongue-out


Depending on where he lives I could do it then...




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  Reply # 1245293 23-Feb-2015 23:50
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Third one looks like it, one of the orange and white wires is disconnected already, is there a second one in there discounnected?




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