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  Reply # 2112549 22-Oct-2018 23:48
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MCD:

 

FYI, I have Google Wifi connected directly to ONT on Bigpipe. It works, but I do not get gigabit speeds, generally around 500+ down, 200+ up.

 

 

How are you testing? Ethernet or WiFi?

 

If ethernet are drivers up-to-date? Are you using Windows 10?





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  Reply # 2112554 23-Oct-2018 06:00
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I set up my Google Wifi with Spark with no issues. 





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  Reply # 2112582 23-Oct-2018 08:56
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freitasm:

 

MCD:

 

FYI, I have Google Wifi connected directly to ONT on Bigpipe. It works, but I do not get gigabit speeds, generally around 500+ down, 200+ up.

 

 

How are you testing? Ethernet or WiFi?

 

If ethernet are drivers up-to-date? Are you using Windows 10?

 

 

In my case I've been testing using ethernet; drivers are up to date, and I'm running Windows 10.

 

As I mentioned earlier, I also tested the connection by plugging the PC directly into the ONT; this gave me the expected speeds of 900+ down, 400+ up.

 

Running through through the Google Wifi router (ethernet) almost halves the speeds I get.


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  Reply # 2112584 23-Oct-2018 08:57
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Dulouz:

 

I set up my Google Wifi with Spark with no issues. 

 

 

Do you connect it to the Spark supplied router, or directly to the ONT?

 

If you have a gigabit connection, are you getting the expected gigabit speeds?

 

 

 

 




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  Reply # 2112586 23-Oct-2018 09:05
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MCD:

 

In my case I've been testing using ethernet; drivers are up to date, and I'm running Windows 10.

 

As I mentioned earlier, I also tested the connection by plugging the PC directly into the ONT; this gave me the expected speeds of 900+ down, 400+ up.

 

Running through through the Google Wifi router (ethernet) almost halves the speeds I get.

 

 

 

 

This is exactly why I posted this question as I was afraid this would be the case.
When you say "drivers are up to date", do you mean the Google WiFi firmware?

 

Someone on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GoogleWiFi/comments/9pk8cn/107181110_release_notes/

 

mentioned that they recently fixed the PPPoE issues. Unsure if that's related.

 

I also contacted BP support but they said they don't know anything about Google WiFi and just supplied the basic fiber settings.


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  Reply # 2112590 23-Oct-2018 09:10
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GFoley83:

 

MCD:

 

In my case I've been testing using ethernet; drivers are up to date, and I'm running Windows 10.

 

As I mentioned earlier, I also tested the connection by plugging the PC directly into the ONT; this gave me the expected speeds of 900+ down, 400+ up.

 

Running through through the Google Wifi router (ethernet) almost halves the speeds I get.

 

 

 

 

This is exactly why I posted this question as I was afraid this would be the case.
When you say "drivers are up to date", do you mean the Google WiFi firmware?

 

Someone on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GoogleWiFi/comments/9pk8cn/107181110_release_notes/

 

mentioned that they recently fixed the PPPoE issues. Unsure if that's related.

 

I also contacted BP support but they said they don't know anything about Google WiFi and just supplied the basic fiber settings.

 

 

By drivers I mean the Windows 10 ethernet driver.

 

Google Wifi keeps itself up to date automatically, one of the many things I like about it.

 

Personally, I'd prefer to keep using it, but would like to be able to get the speeds I'm paying for (even if they're largely unavailable in the real world outside speedtest.net!)

 

Seeing as a number of ISP's market Google Wifi in conjunction with their own routers, I'm guessing that may be the best way forward.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2112591 23-Oct-2018 09:11
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GFoley83:

 

MCD:

 

As I mentioned earlier, I also tested the connection by plugging the PC directly into the ONT; this gave me the expected speeds of 900+ down, 400+ up.

 

 

When you say "drivers are up to date", do you mean the Google WiFi firmware?

 

I also contacted BP support but they said they don't know anything about Google WiFi and just supplied the basic fiber settings.

 

 

The drivers are the WiFi and ethernet network drivers on Windows. In my case I had two laptops achieve no more than 250 Mbps each when connected my LAN - until I updated the drivers to use the OEM instead of Microsoft's generic ones and go instant speed bumped to 800 Mbps. using different routers but just to make sure his tests were not influenced by this detail.





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  Reply # 2112595 23-Oct-2018 09:30
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MCD:

 

FYI, I have Google Wifi connected directly to ONT on Bigpipe. It works, but I do not get gigabit speeds, generally around 500+ down, 200+ up.

 

Been meaning to post about it actually to see if anyone has been able to get the expected performance out of it, or whether it's best to keep the ISP router plugged into the ONT first.

 

(Note, I'm using ethernet, and I compared the speed with a direct connection from PC to ONT, which did give the expected gigabit speeds, ie 900+ down, 400+ up...)

 

 

 

 

I used to get 900/400 speeds using google wifi on BigPipe while using IPoE. As soon as I switched to PPPoE, my speeds dropped to something very similar to yours - 500/200.

 

I believe Google Wifi is really not designed for gigabit pppoe.




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  Reply # 2112962 23-Oct-2018 22:21
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So after finally getting my hands on two Google WiFi units and running a bunch of tests, I can say that droopanu has the right of it: Google Wifi is really not designed for gigabit PPPoE.

 

I was able to successfully connect Google WiFi directly to the fiber ONT but the ethernet speeds were just not as good as what I was getting from the Netcomm NF4V.

 

Scenarios I ran (download speeds in Mbps, WiFi tested from 15 feet away on Win10 laptop & Galaxy S8):

 

ONT  -->  Google WiFi 
Ethernet: 500
WiFi: 200

ONT  -->  NF4V
Ethernet: 900
WiFi: 35

ONT  -->  NF4V  -->  Google WiFi
Ethernet: 500 from Google WiFi, 900 from NF4V
WiFi: 200

 

So the best setup is having the NF4V configured with PPPoE and using Google WiFi to do just that, handle the WiFi.

 

Only question left is, what the best way to configure the NF4V to just handle the PPPoE side of things?

 

So far I've disabled WiFi, assigned the Google WiFi router (connection via ethernet cable) a static IP and assigned that IP to the DMZ.
This is the extent of my knowledge here so if there's a better configuration, please let me know.


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  Reply # 2112969 23-Oct-2018 22:43
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Just put the Google WiFi into access point mode (non routing) and let your router do the heavy lifting.

This is the reason I recommend the AmpliFi- as it can handle Gigabit.




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  Reply # 2112974 23-Oct-2018 22:51
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From what I've been reading, using Google WiFi in bridged nice loses some of the mesh functionality. Like band steering and handover.



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  Reply # 2112975 23-Oct-2018 23:00
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droopanu: From what I've been reading, using Google WiFi in bridged nice loses some of the mesh functionality. Like band steering and handover.

 

Looks like it:

 

Does Google Wifi support Bridge mode?
Yes, but it will only work if you’re using a single Wifi point. If you’re creating a mesh network with multiple Wifi points, your Primary Wifi point cannot be in Bridge mode. This is because the Primary Wifi point needs to do special things to control settings and communication within your Wi-Fi network. If it’s in bridge mode, you’ll lose some of Google Wifi’s key features.

https://support.google.com/wifi/answer/6240987

 

After a quick speed test putting Google WiFi in bridge mode, there was no noticeable speed improvement so happy to leave it as is.


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