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  Reply # 1223096 27-Jan-2015 11:37
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I had back problems since I was 11, every 6 weeks like clockwork. The pain has been so bad I've begged my wife to kill me (No I am not kidding). I have spent well over 20K on various chiropractors, osteopths, physios etc etc etc, and never had a days relief. (An ex physio/chiropractor said those practices are amusing the mind whilst nature takes it's course, which I have found to be completely accurate)

I went and saw James Watt who ordered xrays and an MRI. I also did a core program at the Functional Physio. They have a million dollar machine designed to help strengthen your core. (They strap you in so ONLY your core is able to move and have a measurement system that shows how much movement you are making and how "strong" you are).

It's a very long story, but the long and short of it was, I have less fluid in my blah blahs than a normal person, so whilst doing something like standing up puts a strain factor of 5 on a normal persons back, for me it's a factor of 30, plus I have slow lazy muscles in my lower back. I did a 3 month core program, did the machine I spoke about earlier and went a year without a single problem. I then had more problems, did it again, and about this time had kids who are an excellent core program as they start small and get heavier by the day. Bottom line, 2 years no issues, and only 1 issue in the 2 years prior. 

Contact me directly if you want more information, but bottom line is strengthen your core SIGNIFICANTLY which will cost less than $500 if you do it through the same people I did. 

The machine I am talking about changed my life, it's amazing.

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  Reply # 1223128 27-Jan-2015 12:04
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timmmay: Find a good structural osteopath, a good one is ABSOLUTE MAGIC for anything to do with skeletal or muscular problems. They make physio's look like blundering fools. Avoid cranial osteopaths IMHO, they just sit there with your head in their hands, I have no idea what they're doing.


Ill avoid Chiropractors too.
My theory is that they just look how to move something back to shape without looking at the muscles and why they are strained etc. Hence my thoughts of acupuncture.


Chairo's are great at extracting money from people with little benefit. Osteo's tend to have 30 minute appointments and they're more holistic, looking at joints, muscles, tendons, etc. I have a sore neck at the moment, which apparently is caused by something lower down not being right. They also picked up a small leg length discrepancy, a small heel left made a HUGE difference to my back.




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  Reply # 1223131 27-Jan-2015 12:10

Hi Tim. You have helped me out in the past, so I would like to pass on my advice and experiences. I am a retired medical doctor and I also had similar symptoms to yourself. From your description of your pain levels, the recurrences, and your symptoms, it seems likely that you have a recurrent Lumbar Disc Prolapse, causing pressure on nerves arising from the spinal cord. Short-term, I would repeat the above advice to strengthen your back and abdominal muscles. Do not be afraid to take anti-inflammatory pills, which should reduce the present phase of severe pain. Brufen is one with minimal side-effects. Long-term, you should consider seeing a specialist practitioner with a view to getting a Lumbar Spine X-ray and MRI. For many years I, also, got recurrent pain until there was an acute deterioration with weakness and loss of sensation in one leg. I ended up having an operation to remove the prolapsed disc, and have had no further back pain for the last 20 years. I mention this episode to help assure you that "there is light at the end of the tunnel"!

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  Reply # 1223171 27-Jan-2015 12:34
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Am sensing an imminent appearance of a which spinal surgeon do you recommend thread.

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  Reply # 1223223 27-Jan-2015 13:25
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Have you had this fully assessed by medical personnel? there are some serious conditions that start with lower back pain e.g Ankylosing Spondylitis




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I have had back trouble for 50 years.  Have 2 lumber fractures that will never heal.  Before we knew the doctor sent me to physiotherapist who put knee into back and made things worse. Then they sent me to an osteopath who manipulated and worse still. Ended up not walking. Ended up at orthopedic.  Finally xrays were taken and the surgeon discovered problem and ended in body cast. Could have fused it but said would lose mobility.  Ended in pain all day everyday so went to chiropractor.  He refused to look until he took xrays.  They had 5 years training.  He explained how the different muscles and nerves etc work in relation to the spine.  So i have been going for 40 years and never looked back.  Was heavy vehicle mechanic working in field for many years lifting grader blades, excavator swing motors, truck gearboxes etc on my own.  Could never have done that had it not been for chiropractor.  Now not working I still go every 2 months for maintenance.

I dont think it matters so much who you see as long as they are good in their job.  But I would highly recommend (and I cant stress this enough) who ever you see dont let them touch your back without having xrays first.
  I am not saying physio or osteopath are no good. Just the ones I struck were not.  XRAYS ARE A MUST before anything is done




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  Reply # 1223363 27-Jan-2015 15:22
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KiwiNZ: Have you had this fully assessed by medical personnel? there are some serious conditions that start with lower back pain e.g Ankylosing Spondylitis


I second this. I second it strongly! You need to be PROPERLY Diagnosed so that anyone helping you with recovery does not MAKE IT WORSE. 

You use your back for things you probably don't even think about. 


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  Reply # 1223364 27-Jan-2015 15:25
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KiwiNZ: Have you had this fully assessed by medical personnel? there are some serious conditions that start with lower back pain e.g Ankylosing Spondylitis


I second this. I second it strongly! You need to be PROPERLY Diagnosed so that anyone helping you with recovery does not MAKE IT WORSE. 

You use your back for things you probably don't even think about. 



Leaving a painful back too long before I sought medical attention is a reason I am now in a wheelchair




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KiwiNZ: Have you had this fully assessed by medical personnel? there are some serious conditions that start with lower back pain e.g Ankylosing Spondylitis
this is what I have been diagnosed with and have had it since my early 20's at least if not before.   I firmly believe had it not been for the chiropractor I would be in a wheelchair by now.  I know many do not believe and I dont care that they dont.  What works for one person does not work for another.




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  Reply # 1223379 27-Jan-2015 16:05
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KiwiNZ: Have you had this fully assessed by medical personnel? there are some serious conditions that start with lower back pain e.g Ankylosing Spondylitis
this is what I have been diagnosed with and have had it since my early 20's at least if not before.   I firmly believe had it not been for the chiropractor I would be in a wheelchair by now.  I know many do not believe and I dont care that they dont.  What works for one person does not work for another.


What ever works is best for you is the best treatment :)






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  Reply # 1223381 27-Jan-2015 16:09
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KiwiNZ:
Gilco2:
KiwiNZ: Have you had this fully assessed by medical personnel? there are some serious conditions that start with lower back pain e.g Ankylosing Spondylitis
this is what I have been diagnosed with and have had it since my early 20's at least if not before.   I firmly believe had it not been for the chiropractor I would be in a wheelchair by now.  I know many do not believe and I dont care that they dont.  What works for one person does not work for another.


What ever works is best for you is the best treatment :)




I'll politely disagree here. :) Just because it might make you feel better, doesn't make it better for you.

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  Reply # 1223383 27-Jan-2015 16:14
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KiwiNZ:
Gilco2:
KiwiNZ: Have you had this fully assessed by medical personnel? there are some serious conditions that start with lower back pain e.g Ankylosing Spondylitis
this is what I have been diagnosed with and have had it since my early 20's at least if not before.   I firmly believe had it not been for the chiropractor I would be in a wheelchair by now.  I know many do not believe and I dont care that they dont.  What works for one person does not work for another.


What ever works is best for you is the best treatment :)


thats correct. we are all different so what works for me may not work for others.  The point is it needs to be properly diagnosed first BEFORE anyone mucks around with it.  At the minimum xrays to see whats going on. Once you know whats wrong you can work out which is best treatment.  It may be body cast for 6 months. It may be an operation etc.  But without proper medical investigation no decision can be made.   A back problem is not something to be taken lightly and treated with she'll be right attitude.





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KiwiNZ:
Gilco2:
KiwiNZ: Have you had this fully assessed by medical personnel? there are some serious conditions that start with lower back pain e.g Ankylosing Spondylitis
this is what I have been diagnosed with and have had it since my early 20's at least if not before.   I firmly believe had it not been for the chiropractor I would be in a wheelchair by now.  I know many do not believe and I dont care that they dont.  What works for one person does not work for another.


What ever works is best for you is the best treatment :)




I'll politely disagree here. :) Just because it might make you feel better, doesn't make it better for you.


If it helps relieve the extreme pain then it works, may not cure but if it means you can sleep or life is made bearable then there is therapeutic value, may will be a placebo affect but its real to the sufferer. I have not used them and probably wouldn't.  




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  Reply # 1223405 27-Jan-2015 17:28
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My pain may not be as bad as what you guys have been through. It is consistent and definitely hard to live with.
Usually pain just makes me giggle and people dont think much of it.
Most doctors i have seen and physio dismiss it as nothing and tell me to harden up. I dont think thats the correct diagnosis.
@Networkn i will contact you further about that. Definitely worth a check.
Where is the best place to have scans done. MRI or Ultrasound, Xray. Xray doesnt show muscle or cartridge?





 


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  Reply # 1223409 27-Jan-2015 17:41
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TimA: My pain may not be as bad as what you guys have been through. It is consistent and definitely hard to live with.
Usually pain just makes me giggle and people dont think much of it.
Most doctors i have seen and physio dismiss it as nothing and tell me to harden up. I dont think thats the correct diagnosis.
@Networkn i will contact you further about that. Definitely worth a check.
Where is the best place to have scans done. MRI or Ultrasound, Xray. Xray doesnt show muscle or cartridge?



I am not trying to scare you but mine started as mild pain/ache worse on waking in the morning eased off during the day and would come back in the evening, it also responded to light exercise. Then after a year or two suddenly over a week I went from mild to very severe pain and loss
of ability to walk.

Get them to check again and refer you to a Rheumatologist. Get them to do blood test for HLA-B27 antigen and blood checks for inflammation rate (ESR). 

With all things early diagnosis is best and many Doctors shrug off back pain as being insignificant or imagined.




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