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Topic # 179007 22-Aug-2015 14:46
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I use to take this with my T4 in OZ. but I cant find it here. Anyone have a bung thyroid and know what the deal is?

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  Reply # 1372066 22-Aug-2015 17:51
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Cytomel isn't a registered medicine in nz.

Like all medical things, talk to your GP when you get your thyroxin prescription repeated.

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  Reply # 1372068 22-Aug-2015 17:55
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he said no but I googled it and while its not funded the net suggests it exists. kind of crazy that we dont have it here in NZ if so. next they will be leaving out other mainstream critical illness medicines.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1372096 22-Aug-2015 18:46
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No it's not crazy.

Pharmac doesn't subsidize it.
I'm sure they looked a cost benefit's vrs levothyroxin and made conscious decision not to cover it.

If you think it has a particular benefit for you, then ask your GP to import it under section 29, you will have to pay extra.

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  Reply # 1372101 22-Aug-2015 18:56
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its crazy considering the condition is one of the most common and its well known a large percentage only given thyroxine do not improve their symptoms.

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  Reply # 1372104 22-Aug-2015 19:07
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No its not crazy.
There is only a certain amount of money in the pot.

 "In a systematic review of nine randomized trials, only one trial reported beneficial effects of combination T4-T3 therapy on mood, quality of life, and psychometric performance when compared with T4 therapy alone [50]. A subsequent meta-analysis of 11 published randomized trials including 1216 patients showed that there was no benefit (fatigue, bodily pain, anxiety, depression, quality of life) of combined therapy "

 "in multiple randomized trials, almost all of which showed that combination T4-T3 therapy does not appear to be superior to T4 monotherapy for the management of hypothyroid symptoms."

Uptodate.com

If you think you benefit from dual therapy then see if you can get cytomel imported under section 29 but for Pharmac, might say the evidence isn't there, or maybe the drug company cant be bothered to register the drug here because there isn't enough profit in it for them.....


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  Reply # 1372105 22-Aug-2015 19:08
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lol. ok thanks

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  Reply # 1372141 22-Aug-2015 19:44
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It is available through the underground gym drug scene as its used a lot during a cutting cycle. Or you could try importing yourself it's about 60$ a gram from a Chinese raws site which is a lot considering your dose will be in micrograms.



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  Reply # 1372162 22-Aug-2015 20:42
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no its easier just to use dessicated thyroid, but most developed countries have cytomel. a well known fact that a lot of people have trouble converting t4 to t3. unless you are a pharmacist or mainstream dr, most people are aware of this.

its easier not argue if the answer is simply no its not.

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