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  Reply # 1414966 27-Oct-2015 18:19
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mudguard: My girlfriend has just had something similar done. She spent about $300 on all kinds of god knows what supplements. The worst part is the crazy diet they've recommended.
It's vege, fish, meat, eggs and that's about it. Plus their 'supplements'. No spices or sugars.
I really don't know how to have this conversation.


Oh dear, i really don't know how to have this conversation either ... Good luck!

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  Reply # 1414987 27-Oct-2015 18:26
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More quackery than a pond full of ducks.




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  Reply # 1415017 27-Oct-2015 18:57
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mudguard: My girlfriend has just had something similar done. She spent about $300 on all kinds of god knows what supplements. The worst part is the crazy diet they've recommended.
It's vege, fish, meat, eggs and that's about it. Plus their 'supplements'. No spices or sugars.
I really don't know how to have this conversation.


That's the ultimate lose-lose outcome for us dudes!  And women think they have it tough...  




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  Reply # 1415018 27-Oct-2015 18:58
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MikeAqua: More quackery than a pond full of ducks.


Bahahaha love it

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  Reply # 1415019 27-Oct-2015 18:59
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graemeh:
scuwp: My aging mum had this(?) test about a month ago.  I think she said it was done from her chemist so not restricted to health 2000.  I was under the impression in her case they physically sent the hair samples to Germany as the results took about 3 weeks to come back.  But then again she is getting on a bit...


Perhaps that is the time it took to post the hair samples to the nearest Health 2000 shop and for them to post the results back.

Seriously though, if this happened in a pharmacy you should complain to the Health and Disability Commissioner about the lack of professional ethics shown by the pharmacist.

Contact details are at the top of this page:  http://www.hpdt.org.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=28

I see there is no facility to email or do it online but there is an 0800 number and a PO Box.


Thanks wasn't aware of that.  Seeing that my dear old mum thinks it was money well spent however I fear I would be blacklisted for a while. That's the problem with this stuff, it's so believable that even normally rational people can be duped and refuse to see it for what it is.    




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  Reply # 1415022 27-Oct-2015 19:04
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EMFS & ELFS indicators = 100% pure BS

"A fool and his money are soon parted"  [Dr. John Bridges, 1587]




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  Reply # 1415146 27-Oct-2015 23:10
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Have a look at the scientific explanation published by the 'medical director'. There are lots of diagrams and formulas.

The paper has many scientific formula and goes wibbly at the bottom:

"For Niels Bohr and Albert Einstein measurements meant everything. Now we can measure what cannot be measured….. Entanglement, where everything interacts with everything else, one is everything and everything is one, the simplicity becomes complex and the complexity becomes simple."

There are no details of the sensor mechanism. Is it optical? EM? Details in the paper kind of lead you to believe it is optical but unless I missed it just unspecified.

The paper names the inventors/developers as: Ian Lyons, Richard Pilkington and David Butler.

Ian Lyons claims to be a former heart transplant surgeon. My guess is that claim is overblown at the least but I see no details to verify either way. This guy reports on some trickery from 2011.

Many of the claims made for this device are easy to verify using conventional hair analysis. There is no indication any of that work has been done by anyone. There is no evidence presented for the claims made.

I will go out on a limb and say the output of this analysis is somewhat random but selects randomly from fixed parameters and usually results in the sale of one or more products.

Imho the health shops using this device to drive supplement sales are most likely not deliberately decieving but are probably a bit clueless on the science.

My advice to anyone who has spent money on this diagnostic service is to consider what value they have recieved from it.

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gzt: 

My advice to anyone who has spent money on this diagnostic service is to consider what value they have recieved from it.


After lengthy consideration of hours of arguing with you, their conclusion is likely "I'm getting another check with your latest machine, here, take my money, and yes I will buy whatever is needed to make it better, here take my money"

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  Reply # 1415155 28-Oct-2015 00:32
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Same guy Lyons head of QNet various pyramid selling of similar things:

https://dinoraptor101.wordpress.com/2011/04/09/qnet-pyramid-scheme-is-a-scam/

Yeah not good for anyone involved.

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  Reply # 1415569 28-Oct-2015 16:00
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The guy behind it has a long long history of his operations getting kicked out of various countries for operating some kind of weird pyramid schemes with cultish new age beliefs.

Also known as: Biodisc, QNet, QuestNet, GoldQuest.

Article begins in Malaysian then posts 10's of media articles on the operation in english:

http://aididmuaddib.blogspot.co.nz/2011/10/questnet-asskramm-mintak-bongkar-lagik.html?m=1

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  Reply # 1415647 28-Oct-2015 17:55
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I wonder which is the easier way to make money. Making people more healthy, fixing people's computers, or having very rich dead uncles.

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