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  Reply # 1496591 21-Feb-2016 16:12
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Geektastic: Maybe they should allow medical insurance to be tax deductible to encourage those who can afford it to use it.

 

This is what they have, sort of, in Australia under their Medicare system. We lived there for 30 years and our levy was reduced because we had private health insurance. This was just a basic insurance which mainly covered Ambulance, basic eye and glasses and basic dental. My partner and I were on good incomes (approx $130K combined), [pink DINKs you could say]. My partner became gravely ill in 2013 and spent 4 nights in ICU in an induced coma and then 4 nights on the high dependence ward before discharge home on 4 weeks of Home Nurse Health care. The only bill we received was the ambulance which the insurance paid for.

 

So yes I think we should have some sort of tax deduction inducement scheme if you have private health insurance.

 

I also see that it wont be long before one party or other will advocate for a similar health taxation levy as Australia has.

 

What we should be grateful for in NZ is our pharmaceutical benefits scheme. As we both have cardiac problems and one has diabetic type 2 problems, we are walking drug cabinets. In Australia on their PBS we each had to spend over (2014 figures) $1200pa before our meds became free or cost reduced (which only one of us did reach each year). So we are considerably better off in NZ regarding our pharmaceuticals.

 

I recently met an American family over here as missionaries and their son spent 5 days in hospital. He was amazed at the cheapness of his bill (which was covered by his USA health insurance). He was expecting it to be close to $100k instead it was just below $10,000.

 

Just all be thankful that we have a social health benefits scheme because the majority of the world does not.

 

 





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  Reply # 1496595 21-Feb-2016 16:50
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mattwnz:

 

The thing is that NZ has a major housing shortage, especially in Auckland , yet we are allowing in a big flow of migrants. These will likely be living in overcrowded houses, which can be unhealthy, and will put an extra drain on our health system. Sure, health spending has increased slightly over the years, but I wonder if it has increased per capita, as NZs population is increasing significantly. 

 

 

slightly off topic but worth noting,

 

it's possible to buy yourself into nz, get citizenship, bring in your elderly and inevitably sick parents -- get them onto our renowned state funded health system (hospitals, medical, home help the works -- in cases that i've seen) then skip the country.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1496596 21-Feb-2016 16:56
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FineWine:

 

Geektastic: Maybe they should allow medical insurance to be tax deductible to encourage those who can afford it to use it.

 

This is what they have, sort of, in Australia under their Medicare system. We lived there for 30 years and our levy was reduced because we had private health insurance. This was just a basic insurance which mainly covered Ambulance, basic eye and glasses and basic dental. My partner and I were on good incomes (approx $130K combined), [pink DINKs you could say]. My partner became gravely ill in 2013 and spent 4 nights in ICU in an induced coma and then 4 nights on the high dependence ward before discharge home on 4 weeks of Home Nurse Health care. The only bill we received was the ambulance which the insurance paid for.

 

So yes I think we should have some sort of tax deduction inducement scheme if you have private health insurance.

 

I also see that it wont be long before one party or other will advocate for a similar health taxation levy as Australia has.

 

What we should be grateful for in NZ is our pharmaceutical benefits scheme. As we both have cardiac problems and one has diabetic type 2 problems, we are walking drug cabinets. In Australia on their PBS we each had to spend over (2014 figures) $1200pa before our meds became free or cost reduced (which only one of us did reach each year). So we are considerably better off in NZ regarding our pharmaceuticals.

 

I recently met an American family over here as missionaries and their son spent 5 days in hospital. He was amazed at the cheapness of his bill (which was covered by his USA health insurance). He was expecting it to be close to $100k instead it was just below $10,000.

 

Just all be thankful that we have a social health benefits scheme because the majority of the world does not.

 

 

 

 

And people who don't have children should have a deduction because they aren't using the education system

 

Or those that choose private education should be able to deduct the fees

 

If you CHOOSE to do something in addition to what the government supplies then that is YOUR choice.

 

 


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  Reply # 1496598 21-Feb-2016 17:02
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Society benefits as a whole to keep kids healthy and educated whether you're a parent or not.

 

I'd happily pay a few more $$ on my taxes if the education of some of you lot was improved such that you knew how to use apostrophes better.


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  Reply # 1496619 21-Feb-2016 18:41
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Back on topic (if it ever was : b ) I got to the interview I linked earlier. 8 minutes. 50% the minister and 50% the salaried health professionals association head. Minister says more operations than ever before, assoc head says budget reduced in real terms (inflation) by one billion since a few years back.

Also picked up from there, that this story was kicked off by an Official Information Act request from the Labour Party so I looked at their site for press releases but there was nothing specifically on this topic.

Note: But there is a story about how Steven Joyce spent $200,000 on an 'app' and it has few downloads and the first positive reviews from staffers lol.

Googling a bit more got this Herald story with a little more detail. Hutt DHB says frontline will not be affected just admin and management. No details on the other DHBs maybe no comment so far.

This is quite a good story really so I'm getting surprised that TVNZ did not cover it in more detail. Will check ondemand not as if I watch a lot of network tv.

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