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  Reply # 1882454 12-Oct-2017 14:27
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You can do a salad for two with Lettuce, Tomato, Cucumber, Bean Spouts and cheese for less than $5.00





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reven:

 

allan:, but when sugary/fatty foods are often significantly cheaper than healthier alternatives

 

this is so true, a $5 pizza is pretty bloody cheap to feed 2 people.

 

 

I will disagree as 1kg of potatoes is $1-2 and can feed 4 people. there're many other cheaper alternatives, so people make choice to eat pizza, pies (which could be made healthier), etc.





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  Reply # 1882457 12-Oct-2017 14:29
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MikeB4:

 

You can do a salad for two with Lettuce, Tomato, Cucumber, Bean Spouts and cheese for less than $5.00

 

 

Add a can of chickpeas/lentils ($1.50) and sardines ($1.50) if you need carbs and protein.





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kobiak:

 

reven:

 

allan:, but when sugary/fatty foods are often significantly cheaper than healthier alternatives

 

this is so true, a $5 pizza is pretty bloody cheap to feed 2 people.

 

 

I will disagree as 1kg of potatoes is $1-2 and can feed 4 people. there're many other cheaper alternatives, so people make choice to eat pizza, pies (which could be made healthier), etc.

 

 

Or a 1kg of brown rice for $2.50, add some beans. There are enough nutrients in brown rice /beans to keep you going indefinitely for less than $.50 a serving. 





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allan:

 

A few years ago my significant other had to have dialysis and I was really distressed to see obese/diabetic patients consuming what would generally be considered to be "very crappy" food, whilst actually undergoing dialysis. I'm honestly not sure what you do to prevent this. It's all very well saying that people should take personal responsibility for what they eat, but when sugary/fatty foods are often significantly cheaper than healthier alternatives, that gets pretty hard to manage - particularly if your health issues prevent you from working and you are trying to survive on a benefit.

 

 

I see this as a failure of liberalism and the market economy. Sure, we are free to eat what we what but the food companies are now free to sell food which does more harm than good and has close to 0 nutritional value.

 

People seem to think if it is legal to be sold it must be OK to eat. This couldn't be further from the truth. The marketing messages used to sell processed food are incredibly sophisticated.





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allan:

 

A few years ago my significant other had to have dialysis and I was really distressed to see obese/diabetic patients consuming what would generally be considered to be "very crappy" food, whilst actually undergoing dialysis. I'm honestly not sure what you do to prevent this. It's all very well saying that people should take personal responsibility for what they eat, but when sugary/fatty foods are often significantly cheaper than healthier alternatives, that gets pretty hard to manage - particularly if your health issues prevent you from working and you are trying to survive on a benefit.

 

 

I see this as a failure of liberalism and the market economy. Sure, we are free to eat what we what but the food companies are now free to sell food which does more harm than good and has close to 0 nutritional value.

 

People seem to think if it is legal to be sold it must be OK to eat. This couldn't be further from the truth. The marketing messages used to sell processed food are incredibly sophisticated.

 

 

A diet set my an authoritarian regime would be a lot worse than anything a food company could come up with.


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Dulouz:

 

 

 

People seem to think if it is legal to be sold it must be OK to eat.

 

 

Anyone who thinks that is a sealed idiot. 





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I'm interested to see if that graph tracks well alongside any other oecd stat.

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The links I can see between poverty and poor food choices are: -

 

- Worse educational outcomes;

 

- Lack of transport to reach shops that sell healthy food (rubbish food is always just around the corner).

 

I think there is a big cultural dimension as well.  Some cultural foods are pretty shocking nutritionally with modern in-active lifestyle and if that's what you grow up eating that's what you like.

 

My kids have grown up eating salad and stir-fry, mostly because they are cheap, easy meals to prepare (salad <2 minutes; stitfry <10), but also because they are healthy.  It's easy and cheap to feed them healthy food.

 

 

 

 





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kobiak:

 

reven:

 

allan:, but when sugary/fatty foods are often significantly cheaper than healthier alternatives

 

this is so true, a $5 pizza is pretty bloody cheap to feed 2 people.

 

 

I will disagree as 1kg of potatoes is $1-2 and can feed 4 people. there're many other cheaper alternatives, so people make choice to eat pizza, pies (which could be made healthier), etc.

 

 

Potatoes are now $3.00 kg loose. But who wants to east just potato. Add sour cream, cheese and spring onions.

 

Throw in a salad (lettuce, cucumber, toms, radish, cheese + dressing) and your are well over $10.00, albeit not for just one meal for two.





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MikeB4:

 

You can do a salad for two with Lettuce, Tomato, Cucumber, Bean Spouts and cheese for less than $5.00

 

 

You couldn't really, if you were staring from fresh, and not rolling over supplies on an at least weekly basis.

 

My fortnight grocery bills just keeps edging higher and higher, and mainly due to fresh produce, and meat(s)

 

I know it's out of season at the moment, and there was a bad autumn for root crops.

 

Potatoes were $10-12 for 10Kg, now it's near $10.00 for 2.5Kg. It's cheaper to buy frozen oven fries

 

Tomatoes are up and down, but even at the peak produce season this year, they were still almost double as compared to last year. I do prefer the better quality tomatoes, as the normal hothouse ones just are not worth buying - too watery and flavourless.

 

Cucumbers - they've been off my list for months - though I do see they have dropped in price recently to $2.00

 

Ditto capsicums - now $1.50 - were around $2.50. I buy bottled capsicums. I get 6 for $5.00, and they dont go off.

 

Lettuce - $2.00, but has ranged up to $4-5

 

Mung beans - $1.80

 

Cheese - I've had to resort to the non-Mainland tasty - as the Mainland tasty wasnton special last week, and I'm not paying near $16.00 / kg

 

Most of the fresh veg needs to be eaten within a week - especially cucumbers and mung beans. They start rotting fairly quick.

 

 





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Alright. If you don't like just potatoes, make soup. Costs me $10-15 depending on meat for 6-8 servings.

Sounds like there are a lot of excuses made about food. Just cook something different, YouTube is full of wonderfully recipes for half the price of hell pizza pizzas.




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Lots of talk about potatoes, which are one of the most fattening foods you can eat lol


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Potatoes are not fattening, the way it's cooked makes it fat rich dish

My point was there are cheaper and healthy alternatives to 5$ pizzas. But people either not willing to try or cook other foods/ dishes




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kobiak: Alright. If you don't like just potatoes, make soup. Costs me $10-15 depending on meat for 6-8 servings.

Sounds like there are a lot of excuses made about food. Just cook something different, YouTube is full of wonderfully recipes for half the price of hell pizza pizzas.

 

True that - Hell pizza's cost more than the the cheapie $5.00 from Dominos or Pizza Hut. $17.00, vs $5.00

 

The point being it is quite difficult to feed 2 for the equivalent of a $5.00 pizza - the pizza, albeit not the healthiest option, will fill a hungry stomach. And there is 10 different $5.00 pizza's to choose from.

 

Heck, I even make soup. Bacon hocks - $6-$9. Potatoes and 2 Leeks - $7.00. Some garlic ?

 

So you going to eat leek and potato soup for the next 3 days, and nothing else ? Some toast / bread ? Want some butter on that ?

 

I'm providing some realistic itemised costings as to what I would spend putting together a few meals, and what is actually in the list of ingredients.

 

Heck, I could live on savoury mince, rice, toast and salad for a few weeks, but that would get boring ...

 

 





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