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  Reply # 1960736 20-Feb-2018 08:53
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Fred99:

 

afe66: Most dangerous product in most people's houses are the dishwashing tablets.

Can happily dissolve/scar a small child's eosophagus.

Child then get anaesthetics every six months for years to repeatedly dilate the narrowing.

Don't leave them under sink. Leave in laundry high on a shelf behind kiddy fence.

 

They changed formulation in domestic dishwash machine formulations in 2007, from using formulations consisting of mainly highly caustic sodium metasilicate.  The sodium silicate listed as an ingredient is I believe sodium disilicate, and in lower levels.  There may also be other dangerous ingredients.

 

So yes - still keep them out of reach of children, but there are plenty of other equally or more dangerous materials in most homes.

 

 

 

 

Last night I was chilling with some mates. It came up in conversation a Gen Z trend is to see how long you can hold one of those tablets in your mouth...

Ah well, I am not against people awarding themselves Darwin's Award. 





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  Reply # 1960948 20-Feb-2018 13:26
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Yes it's also a trend to go to hospital afterwards.

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  Reply # 1989012 5-Apr-2018 19:22
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You know, everything is poisonous. The point is how much of a substance.

 

So this is what? An excuse not to clean your house ever again? A reason to not get a cleaning job?
Or a push to use the vinegar thing? cause I can tell, you, you try cleaning the oven with that.

 

 

 

We could avoid everything (maybe, even on a mountain top you're exposed to certain things) and guess what, your body will still wear out and fail.

 

 




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  Reply # 1989071 5-Apr-2018 21:32
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pctek:

 

You know, everything is poisonous. The point is how much of a substance.

 

So this is what? An excuse not to clean your house ever again? A reason to not get a cleaning job?
Or a push to use the vinegar thing? cause I can tell, you, you try cleaning the oven with that.

 

 

 

We could avoid everything (maybe, even on a mountain top you're exposed to certain things) and guess what, your body will still wear out and fail.

 

 

 

 

Oh please...

 

The data was preliminary - but suggests strong correlation between exposure to unknown cleaning products and serious health effects - way beyond "normal wear and tear" and suggesting increased mortality and reduced quality of life for those suffering the effects.

 

Your "everything is poisonous" comment is abject BS in context of the history of the effects of exposure to a assortment of synthetic compounds which were once thought to be safe, but later found out to be very unsafe indeed.

 

It's conjecture as to what chemicals may (or may not) be involved here, but it's worthy of serious research to find out WTF is going on - rather than dismissing it with loser arguments like your "everything is poisonous" example.


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  Reply # 1989072 5-Apr-2018 21:33
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pctek: So this is what? An excuse not to clean your house ever again? A reason to not get a cleaning job?

It's a pointer to look at some simple mitigation if you are involved in this kind of business and or use these products a lot. For instance you might look at using a different method of application where possible. In cases where spray cannot be avoided you might look at increasing the droplet size to avoid floating fine mist in the air.



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  Reply # 1989078 5-Apr-2018 21:44
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pctek: So this is what? An excuse not to clean your house ever again? A reason to not get a cleaning job?

It's a pointer to look at some simple mitigation if you are involved in this kind of business and or use these products a lot. For instance you might look at using a different method of application where possible. In cases where spray cannot be avoided you might look at increasing the droplet size to avoid floating fine mist in the air.

 

I think first is to find out WTF the product(s) is/are that are causing the issue.

 

It's not a given that the product will be low volatile, atomised and inhaled. It *might* be lavender oil or dust from microfibre cloths - nobody knows.


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This is why I have a wood fire burning all the time, to burn the toxins in the air.


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