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  Reply # 2002880 26-Apr-2018 16:03
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I'm not sure any food is inherently bad.  There are foods you should eat only very occasionally and food you should eat often.

 

This is common sense (or should be).  Ditto the need to exercise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brussel Sprouts and Broccoli are bad tongue-out

 

 

 

 

LOL, love 'em both, but accept that I am abnormal in this regard. It's clearly not an inherited condition as if I try to get the kids to eat Brussel Sprouts they act as if I'm trying to make them eat cotton balls dipped in sulfuric acid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I took my then 3 year old son to a food festival. Told him he could have whatever he wanted to eat. We went to an area with Chinese food, an icecream truck, weiner truck, and a waffle truck. His choice? Chinese, "lots of bwoccoli pwease". The sound of 100 jaws hitting the ground around me, and positive comments were excellent. 

 

My wife doesn't love Brussel Sprouts but the rest of us either don't mind them or LOVE them (me). Boiling the snot out of anything makes it taste disgusting in my experience. Lightly cooking till still bright green, slicing in half with some garlic, feta, toasted almonds and freshly fried bacon is a great way to eat them. Or Lightly boiled until barely tender (still bright green) with some browned butter is also delicious. Thinly sliced as salad greens. 

 

Brocolli is nice lightly steamed, or made into soup with Blue Cheese!

 

I am yet to find something other than olives that I can't turn into a dish that someone who doesn't like it, won't mind it. Fish is an excellent example. So many people don't like fish, but have never had it cooked well (barely) and super fresh (the only way I eat it). 

 

Allergies excluded. 

 

 


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  Reply # 2002881 26-Apr-2018 16:04
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Brussels Sprouts

 

 

If you sauté Brussels sprouts in butter bacon and pine-nuts then stir through a splash of cream they are actually quite good.





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  Reply # 2002893 26-Apr-2018 16:06
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MikeB4:

 

Brussels Sprouts

 

 

If you sauté Brussels sprouts in butter bacon and pine-nuts then stir through a splash of cream they are actually quite good.

 

 

 

 

Sometimes being Lactose intolerant is a blessing smile





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  Reply # 2002902 26-Apr-2018 16:15
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Sometimes being Lactose intolerant is a blessing smile

 

 

I can't think of one situation where that would be true. 

 

Interestingly, some people are born with a defect in their taste buds that makes things like Brocolli and Brussel Sprouts taste bitter. 

 

 


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MikeB4:

 

Sometimes being Lactose intolerant is a blessing smile

 

 

I can't think of one situation where that would be true. 

 

Interestingly, some people are born with a defect in their taste buds that makes things like Brocolli and Brussel Sprouts taste bitter. 

 

 

Just like how ability to detect the certain aroma associated to peeing after consuming asparagus is genetic.


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Bitterness is very important in satiation.  But interestingly, only when sensed in the gut. 





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MikeAqua: ...bacon...



Is there anything this Super-Food can't fix?


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  Reply # 2002912 26-Apr-2018 16:30
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MikeB4:

 

Sometimes being Lactose intolerant is a blessing smile

 

 

I can't think of one situation where that would be true. 

 

Interestingly, some people are born with a defect in their taste buds that makes things like Brocolli and Brussel Sprouts taste bitter. 

 

 

 

 

It was the method of cooking I was referring to, that is teh use of butter and cream, meaning yet another reason I cannot be subjected to those hideous vegetables. Otherwise lactose intolerance is a pain in the butt  





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  Reply # 2002913 26-Apr-2018 16:31
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Rikkitic:

 

I am aware of the difficulty, but there is also such a thing as common sense.

 

 

Clearly you have never had anything to do with tax rules. Commonsense isn't nearly enough.

 

There are hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars at stake. As with other tax cases, there will be a large number of boundary cases taken to court, which will be fought hard and expensively by both sides. Waving your hands and saying "apply common sense" won't work. The courts will have to interpret the legislation, and every bit of wording, or even the placement of a comma will matter.

 

Taxing tobacco is comparatively easy. You can define it, and there are few products that contain it. Taxing "fast food", "junk food" or "junk food advertising" wouldn't be nearly so easy.

 

You would have to write a legally watertight definition of junk food, which means that a court can consistently rule on any item whether it is subject to the tax or not.

 

  • Is chocolate junk food?
  • what about plain biscuits?
  • If one is and the other isn't then what about chocolate chip biscuits?
  • How many chocolate chips can a biscuit have before it changes categories?
  • Is bread a junk food
  • is beef a junk food?
  • are lettuces or tomatoes junk foods?
  • If the answer to the last three is no, then why does beef, lettuce and tomato wrapped in bread (=a hamburger) become a junk food?
  • The list goes on[.....]

This isn't theoretical. Google VAT on cornish pasties, or VAT on McVities Jaffa cakes if you want to see what an expensive quagmire this can quickly turn in to.

 

And if you want to tax advertising of junk food then as well as a watertight definition of junk food, you also need a watertight definition of advertising it.

 

  • does Mcdonalds advertising a Big Mac on TV count as junk food advertising?
  • does McDonalds advertising a vegetarian lettuce salad on TV sans dressing count as junk food advertising?
  • if the answers to the above are yes and no, then how do you draw up a watertight list of products that mean a tax results if they feature in the ad (in a way that manufacturers can understand and lawyers won't need to keep arguing court)?
  • what if McDonalds just run a brand promotion ad (with no product), say "make it click seatbelt safety"?
  • if such an ad from McDonalds attracts the tax (because...brand), then is would an identical seatbelt safety campaign by any other party (Toyota, Southern Cross Medical, a DHB, the LTSA.....) also attract a tax
  • if not, why not.

Apart from failing to demonstrate at all that your "solution" would have an impact, have you even thought about what an administrative nightmare it would be?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2004149 28-Apr-2018 15:43
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James Shaw GREENS. looks fine
David Lange, Gerry Brownlee not greens, not look fine

Proven

 

 

 

You're dead wrong. Rod Donald GREENS looked fine...




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Rikkitic:

 

Here is a positive story.

 

 

It's only positive until the food poisoning kicks in.  Still, if it was in Christchurch, i would risk eating there since it is free. 

 

BTW complete rubbish about food waste.   Left over food goes into pig food etc.  Nothing gets thrown away as the article suggests.


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  Reply # 2005376 30-Apr-2018 18:27
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Ge0rge:

Is there anything this Super-Food can't fix?

 

Angry women - stand back and gently throw chocolate.





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Ge0rge:

Is there anything this Super-Food can't fix?

 

Angry women - stand back and gently throw chocolate.

 

 

Apparently in this PC modern age I am expected to take offence and express outrage at this ^^^ but I won't because it made me laugh!


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MikeAqua:

 

Angry women - stand back and gently throw chocolate.

 

 

Apparently in this PC modern age I am expected to take offence and express outrage at this ^^^ but I won't because it made me laugh!

 

 

Gently was a concession to PC.  Besides a woman told me that so it can't be wrong.





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