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Topic # 242206 16-Oct-2018 11:04
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Does anyone have one of these?

 

 

 

I would like to cycle more but hills do not really agree with me as much as they used to, with age, dodgy knee and so forth. It means my bike goes largely unused and, although I am a fair weather cyclist these days, I would like to get out more and perhaps tackle the Otago Rail Trail sometime.

 

An ebike seems a sensible way to facilitate that. However, they are fairly expensive if you place a premium on manufacturing quality and so on, with the Swiss built Stromer costing some $8,500 in NZ! Van Moof, who make very nice looking ebikes (so many of them just look like a normal bike with a brick taped to the downtube..!), do not export to the Southern hemisphere at all.

 

 

 

It looks like decent Euro quality is in the $4,000 range (eg Kalkhoff, Gepida, Gazelle etc) which is a lot to pay for a bike but I suppose if it enables you to get fitter, save petrol, get fresh air etc etc then it might be worthwhile. I certainly do not want some cheap Chinese made no-brand type of thing as if it is costing you thousands, you want a brand that will stand behind the product and still be there in 5 years when you need parts or what have you.

 

 

 

Has anyone dipped their toe in the ebike water?






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  Reply # 2108715 16-Oct-2018 11:08
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I'm keen to know all of this too.

 

 

 

Like you, I have a somewhat dodgy joint (or two) and would like a bit of assistance in my cycling.

 

I just don't see how a good (middle of the road) e-bike can cost $5k+ when a top of the line downhill mountain bike with every bell and whistle known to man (including the R&D that goes into it) is between $5-10k...

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 2108725 16-Oct-2018 11:15
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I'm pretty interested in them also.

 

I was having a discussion with someone on the bus this morning about ebikes. I wondered if you'd get funny looks on the Rail Trail if you took an ebike? I supposed you might, but it'd be OK, he reckoned it would be a no-no. Can't see it being an issue, so long as you are careful and respectful, given that an ebike can go a lot faster than a human powered bike.


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  Reply # 2108732 16-Oct-2018 11:22
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  Reply # 2108734 16-Oct-2018 11:24
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I'm pretty interested in them also.

 

I was having a discussion with someone on the bus this morning about ebikes. I wondered if you'd get funny looks on the Rail Trail if you took an ebike? I supposed you might, but it'd be OK, he reckoned it would be a no-no. Can't see it being an issue, so long as you are careful and respectful, given that an ebike can go a lot faster than a human powered bike.

 

 

I don't think the problem with ebikes is the speed at which they travel (not that it helps), but it's similar to Motorscooters where you are able to use a car license not a motorbike license.  It gets a different type of person, with generally the wrong type of experience out on roads and at speeds they're not familiar with.

 

ebikes get a very different demographic out on  the roads because of the perceived easiness. And they're up to a fast road bike speed without as much experience.





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  Reply # 2108738 16-Oct-2018 11:27
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https://electricbikesnz.com has some great reviews on ebikes available in NZ.

 

Best strategy will be to narrow down on a particular model and wait for the sale (sign-up for EVO cycles / Bikebarn / Torpedo newsletters).

 

Also, you can physically try your favorites in one of these stores before you lock-down


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  Reply # 2108748 16-Oct-2018 11:40
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Been looking recently - Haven't bought, but...

 

Usually better to have the motor in the crank part of the bike (mid drive) - it can target assistance better that just a motor in the wheel.

 

Some of the cheaper/older models have the motor in the back wheel.

 

Probably best to avoid anything that is not Shimano based running gear (batteries tend to come from various sources though). I looked at a very nice looking bike that had Bosch motor etc - The shop person said that Shimano has a huge chunk of the market and are very good with support/firmware updates. Bosch - not so much. I know from experience with other items, that support/parts for 'Euro' items can be a problem at times. Interestingly the shop person said that Shimano NZ (there is one) were trying out the idea of hire battery packs - for the times you might want to travel with your bike (by plane). You cant airfreigh a battery legally. So you could fly your bike somewhere and hire a battery at the other end.

 

Bikebarn has discount for AA members (10% from memory) and also said that you can make AA callouts. I think this is only if you buy via Bikebarn (but I could be wrong). I first thought that was crazy that you could make a callout for an e-bike - but they are heavier than an ordinary bike - you might have gone further from home than you might on an ordinary bike. And pushing an e-bike home would be hard going.





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  Reply # 2108754 16-Oct-2018 11:47
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Handsomedan:

I'm keen to know all of this too.


 


Like you, I have a somewhat dodgy joint (or two) and would like a bit of assistance in my cycling.


I just don't see how a good (middle of the road) e-bike can cost $5k+ when a top of the line downhill mountain bike with every bell and whistle known to man (including the R&D that goes into it) is between $5-10k...


 


 


 



Um try 18-20k lol, not 5-10k




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  Reply # 2108796 16-Oct-2018 12:19
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Handsomedan:

 

I'm keen to know all of this too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like you, I have a somewhat dodgy joint (or two) and would like a bit of assistance in my cycling.

 

 

 

I just don't see how a good (middle of the road) e-bike can cost $5k+ when a top of the line downhill mountain bike with every bell and whistle known to man (including the R&D that goes into it) is between $5-10k...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Um try 18-20k lol, not 5-10k

 

OK - it's been a while since I have bought a bike...mine was a middling freeride bike at the princely sum of $3k in the early 2000's.





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  Reply # 2108810 16-Oct-2018 12:40
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trig42:

 

I'm pretty interested in them also.

 

I was having a discussion with someone on the bus this morning about ebikes. I wondered if you'd get funny looks on the Rail Trail if you took an ebike? I supposed you might, but it'd be OK, he reckoned it would be a no-no. Can't see it being an issue, so long as you are careful and respectful, given that an ebike can go a lot faster than a human powered bike.

 

 

You'd be fine on the rail trail with an ebike. There are companies hiring ebikes to do it now. 


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  Reply # 2108825 16-Oct-2018 12:56
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  Reply # 2108837 16-Oct-2018 13:08
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it is my goal that when I finally get out of this stupid wheelchair that I to will use an E Bike. To that end I have purchased one and it serves as constant motivation. @Geektastic Blackwells in Greytown sell them, the Smartmotion bikes which are very good and review well, I am sure they will let you trial one.





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  Reply # 2108840 16-Oct-2018 13:14
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  Reply # 2108852 16-Oct-2018 13:27
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I recently purchased a Magnum Peak for $2795, so the cheaper end of the market.

 

I'm pretty happy with it.  It's mountain bike style and rear hub drive.

 

Only issue I have had is the spokes needed re-tensioning after 100 odd kms - apparently hub drive ebikes are well known for being hard on spokes.

 

My trip to work is only around 3 kms each way so I probably should just be riding a normal bike, but I like new gadgets.

 

It's pretty zippy - I started off on level 6 (full) pedal assist, just because I could, and it will cruise along at 38 km/h which I found a bit too quick.  At that speed it causes issues with cars cutting you off because they don't realise how fast you are going, plus quite a bit of wind resistance.  I have settled on level 4 assist now with a a bit of pedal effort for exercise.  That gets me along at about 30-32 km/h and is more battery efficient.

 

I've added flashing LED's from Torpedo7 to make me more visible and also a Suntour NCX suspension seat post which is awesome.

 

I'm charging it once a week at the moment when it gets down to just below half capacity - I just wheel it straight in the front door at work and charge it at my desk.  I reckon about 4c a charge so if anyone at work complains about using their power I'll ask payroll to make a 20c per month salary deduction - lol.


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  Reply # 2108880 16-Oct-2018 14:41
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Bought one for my Mum a few weeks back. An Avanti about $3500. Its got the pedal assist that you want. Its all automatic and when your pedal pressure gets higher, ie: you are pressing harder on the pedals, the motor cuts in and gives you some help. She loves it and cycles along the Waikato River tracks. She's 75.

 

I think its https://www.avantiplus.co.nz/products/aveb0a811/title/avanti-metro-e-city-e-bike

 

This is what you want to look for:

 

Bottom Bracket : Shimano STEPS E6002, 50Nm, 250 Watt / 418wh Battery / Shimano System Display

 

Last year we were on the Alps to Ocean and everyone was on electric bikes. Who cares what you ride as long as you are out there in the real world. Cycling to work now in Christchurch I see lots of people on the cycle ways on them. Its the way of the future.


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  Reply # 2108883 16-Oct-2018 14:45
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Bought one for my Mum a few weeks back. An Avanti about $3500. Its got the pedal assist that you want. Its all automatic and when your pedal pressure gets higher, ie: you are pressing harder on the pedals, the motor cuts in and gives you some help. She loves it and cycles along the Waikato River tracks. She's 75.

 

 

 

Last year we were on the Alps to Ocean and everyone was on electric bikes. Who cares what you ride as long as you are out there in the real world. Cycling to work now in Christchurch I see lots of people on the cycle ways on them. Its the way of the future.

 

 

+1

 

I cycle (a road bike) to work in Chch when I don't have to help with the drop offs/pick ups with the kids. I sometimes wish I lived more than 4k away from the office though (or could organise my life better so I could leave earlier to take the long way). 

 

 


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