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  Reply # 2197558 13-Mar-2019 21:31
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Oh, 28 by end of day.

 

If you thought FB was full of rage already, (and on that, why the hell don't stuff just turn off comments for posts once the API has posted it.. jeepers!) check out 'Seven Sharp' post to page (and comments under video)

 

Your blood will boil.

 

And Regarding the warning post https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=161&topicid=248131 

 

Priorities have changed https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/111259324/canterbury-measles-outbreak-unimmunised-cases-new-priority 

 

It would appear the meetings of officials has changed scope slightly. They now say those 1-28yrs (post 1990 dosing or totally un stabbed) are of priority, With 69-90 bracket of less concern. Presumably a different reigeme/batch from the combined MMR.

 

Health authorities previously wanted those with just one vaccination to also get a second jab, but have found they are better protected from the disease than first thought.


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  Reply # 2197636 14-Mar-2019 06:03
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Oh god, I made the mistake of reading the comments on the Facebook Seven Sharp video with Nigel Latta. People are so incredibly stupid.





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  Reply # 2197645 14-Mar-2019 07:26
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Published in Stuff by Cate Broughton Wednesday 13 March

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/111234169/measles-outbreak-parents-warned-to-keep-unvaccinated-babies-away-from-canterbury

Measles outbreak: Parents warned to keep unvaccinated babies away from Canterbury

Parents of babies too young for vaccination are being warned to stay away from Canterbury while a measles outbreak continues.

Canterbury medical officer of health Alistair Humphrey told Stuff on Tuesday parents of babies under 12 months old intending to visit Canterbury in the next few weeks should cancel their plans if the outbreak of measles continued to spread.

In answer to a Stuff reader's question on whether they should bring their 8-month-old to Christchurch for a family wedding in May, Humphrey said he would not bring a baby to the region until the outbreak was contained.

"I'd keep an eye on what's happening with the outbreak. If the outbreak looks like it's contained by May - and we'd hope it was - but if it's not contained, I would not bring the baby down if it's still spreading," Humphrey said.

EARLY VACCINES FOR CANTY KIDS

Under the national immunisation schedule for MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), the first dose is available at 15 months and a second dose at 4 years old.

However, in Canterbury the ages for both injections was brought forward.

Last week the Canterbury District Health Board (CDHB) advised parents children could be given the first dose at 12 months and the second dose one month after that.

About 92 per cent of children in Canterbury are fully vaccinated at 5 years of age. Humphrey said it was "hard to say" how many of the remaining 8 per cent was down to anti-vaccination beliefs.

"True conscientious objectors are relatively rare. Most who do not get it done because parents are busy. After the last 2009 Canterbury outbreak many in this group chose to get their children vaccinated."

COULD IT SPREAD?

Humphrey said health authorities were trying to ensure the outbreak did not spread to other parts of New Zealand by tracking each case and ensuring patients stayed in isolation.

"A period of two full incubation periods without a case is officially the end of an outbreak. Strictly speaking that would be a total of 42 days."

Measles was a highly infectious and potentially fatal disease.

"If you are within 2 metres of someone who is infectious, your chances of becoming infected are 90 per cent if you're unvaccinated," he said.

Two doses of the MMR vaccine provided protection for more than 95 per cent of people.

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  Reply # 2197650 14-Mar-2019 07:35
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msukiwi:

 

And now from the NZHerald:

 

"Aucklanders are being told to be alert to possible measles symptoms with two cases identified in the region this month."

 

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/111226375/two-measles-cases-in-auckland-infant-and-young-adult-catch-the-disease

 

Two new cases of measles have been reported in Auckland and health services are asking people to be aware of its symptoms. 

 

In a statement, Auckland Regional Public Health Services (ARPHS), said one case involved an infant and another involved a young adult. 

 

Members of the public who attended the Mt Eden's Life Central Church on Normanby Rd on March 6 and the Wesley market on March 8 had been exposed to measles and were asked to be aware of any symptoms. 


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  Reply # 2197767 14-Mar-2019 10:13
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Well crud. If they needed more 'HAHAHAHA' artillery in the 'against' club they just got it.

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/111259324/canterbury-measles-outbreak-unimmunised-cases-new-priority 

 

Of the 28 confirmed cases, some had never been immunised, others had one vaccination and two cases had been fully immunised.


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  Reply # 2197809 14-Mar-2019 10:57
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Oblivian:

 

Well crud. If they needed more 'HAHAHAHA' artillery in the 'against' club they just got it.

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/111259324/canterbury-measles-outbreak-unimmunised-cases-new-priority 

 

Of the 28 confirmed cases, some had never been immunised, others had one vaccination and two cases had been fully immunised.

 

 

So "some" is probably more than 15?, maybe even more than 20?...

 

2 out of 28 is 7%

 

MMR is estimated ~95% effective , so that's within the bounds of expectation....

 

No vaccine is 100% effective, that's why its best to have widespread coverage


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  Reply # 2197811 14-Mar-2019 11:04
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wellygary:

Oblivian:


Well crud. If they needed more 'HAHAHAHA' artillery in the 'against' club they just got it.


https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/111259324/canterbury-measles-outbreak-unimmunised-cases-new-priority 


Of the 28 confirmed cases, some had never been immunised, others had one vaccination and two cases had been fully immunised.



So "some" is probably more than 15?, maybe even more than 20?...


2 out of 28 is 7%


MMR is estimated ~95% effective , so that's within the bounds of expectation....


No vaccine is 100% effective, that's why its best to have widespread coverage



I know this, you know this. But we know how much the other camp like statistics. And refute them. Visually on a small sample lot they love it.

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  Reply # 2197837 14-Mar-2019 11:29
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From Canterbury District Health Board

https://www.cdhb.health.nz/media-release/twenty-five-measles-cases-now-confirmed-in-canterbury/

The number of confirmed cases of measles in Canterbury now stands at twenty-five and is likely to rise further over the coming days and weeks. It can now be assumed that measles is circulating widely in our community.

Under-immunised people who come within two metres of an infectious person, however briefly, have a 90% chance of contracting measles.

Measles is a serious, highly infectious, potentially life-threatening disease. Up to 30 percent will develop complications – usually children under five. Measles during pregnancy increases the risk of miscarriage, premature labour and low birth-weight in babies.

Under-immunised people exposed to measles first develop a respiratory type illness with dry cough or runny nose or conjunctivitis and a temperature over 38.5 C and a rash. People are considered infectious from 5 days before, until 5 days after, the rash first appears.

The best protection is for people born after 1969 is to have had two MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccinations.

Canterbury Medical Officer of Health, Dr Ramon Pink says measles is now in widespread circulation and people who aren’t fully immune could be exposed to the risk of infection anywhere in Canterbury.

“Immunisation is the only sure way to avoid getting measles. Only people who were born before 1969 or have had two MMR vaccinations are considered fully protected. Those aged between 29 and 50 will only have had one measles vaccination and are not considered immune.”

General practice teams have been asked to prioritise the following groups for MMR immunisation, in this order:
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1. People who are not up-to-date according to the schedule for their age group Children and young adults (age range 5 years to 28 years) who are either not immunised or who have only received one MMR dose to date.

Children 12 months to 5 years who have never received any doses of MMR.
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2.The four-year-old MMR can be brought forward to no sooner than four weeks after the previous MMR.
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3.Adults aged 29 to 50 (this group only received one dose of measles vaccine).
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Extra supplies of the MMR vaccine in Canterbury are being delivered, with 18,000 doses expected to be available in practices from Wednesday.

“Given their higher risk, our focus over the short term is to provide MMR immunisations to those under 29 years who are not fully vaccinated. People between the ages of 29 and 50 can expect to get a measles vaccine from their general practice in a week or two,” says Dr Pink.

Babies whose mother is immune will have some protection if they are currently being breastfed. For children who are too young to have had both MMRs or who cannot be immunised for other reasons, the best way to protect them is to ensure everyone around them has been vaccinated – if you can’t get it, you can’t pass it on.

“If you think you may have been exposed to measles or have symptoms, please call your general practice first, 24/7. Calls made to general practices after hours will be answered by a nurse who will advise you what to do and where to go if you need to be seen.

“The MMR vaccine is very effective protection and we should see this as an opportunity for us all to make sure we are up to date with our vaccinations,” says Dr Pink.

More information about measles is available at https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatments/diseases-and-illnesses/measles and http://www.immune.org.nz

Anyone with measles symptoms or who believes they may have been exposed, can contact their usual general practice 24/7 for additional advice. If people call their GP team after hours follow the instructions to be put through to a nurse will answer the call and advise what to do and where to go if you need to be seen.

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  Reply # 2197893 14-Mar-2019 11:55
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Its there any penalty's / laws against being a dickhead?  Eg you know you have  the measles but still head out to the gym/mall?


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  Reply # 2197901 14-Mar-2019 12:05
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kingdragonfly: From Canterbury District Health Board

 

I'm unsure its a good idea not only linking but quoting the entire text.. That is dated Monday and a press conference last night has shifted some focus points. Of which the original source text may be changed too, while the quoted here for anyone to stumble upon won't

 

The number now being 28 was a giveaway when I first glanced and saw 25 in the headline.




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  Reply # 2197906 14-Mar-2019 12:07
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cruxis:

Its there any penalty's / laws against being a dickhead?  Eg you know you have  the measles but still head out to the gym/mall?



Unfortunately not. It's too bad that measles is not as visible or abhorrent as poor spelling and grammar.



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  Reply # 2197909 14-Mar-2019 12:08
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Oblivian:

kingdragonfly: From Canterbury District Health Board


I'm unsure its a good idea not only linking but quoting the entire text.. That is dated Monday and a press conference last night has shifted some focus points. Of which the original source text may be changed too, while the quoted here for anyone to stumble upon won't


The number now being 28 was a giveaway when I first glanced and saw 25 in the headline.



Would very much like to see an updated graph...

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  Reply # 2197936 14-Mar-2019 12:36
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irongarment:
Oblivian:

 

kingdragonfly: From Canterbury District Health Board

 

 

 

I'm unsure its a good idea not only linking but quoting the entire text.. That is dated Monday and a press conference last night has shifted some focus points. Of which the original source text may be changed too, while the quoted here for anyone to stumble upon won't

 

 

 

The number now being 28 was a giveaway when I first glanced and saw 25 in the headline.

 



Would very much like to see an updated graph...

 

It changed from 27 in the morning to 28 in the afternoon. So tricky tracking who has the accurate results with media releases and no official one.

 

Click to see full size

 

 


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  Reply # 2197940 14-Mar-2019 12:38
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Being of 1973 vintage and only one hand written note in my plunket book, my doc is giving me the two vaccinations. There is no charge for them either.

 

 

 

Best you check with your doc if you need them too.





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  Reply # 2197947 14-Mar-2019 12:53
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Oblivian:

irongarment:
Oblivian:


kingdragonfly: From Canterbury District Health Board


 


I'm unsure its a good idea not only linking but quoting the entire text.. That is dated Monday and a press conference last night has shifted some focus points. Of which the original source text may be changed too, while the quoted here for anyone to stumble upon won't


 


The number now being 28 was a giveaway when I first glanced and saw 25 in the headline.




Would very much like to see an updated graph...


It changed from 27 in the morning to 28 in the afternoon. So tricky tracking who has the accurate results with media releases and no official one.


Click to see full size


 



Brilliant, thanks. Looks like a textbook exponential, but who knows where it's heading. Would be extremely interesting if AKL echoes the curve exactly.

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