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Oblivian

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Reply # 2198299 14-Mar-2019 23:05

Todays media stand-up (live on FB daily) outlined the stats after a question was raised (like the linked 2017 numbers)

Of the 28:

0 Shot: 18 (presumed 'majority'

1 Shot: 6

2 Shot: 4 (up from 2 yesterday - noted as rare/minority)

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Reply # 2198475 15-Mar-2019 11:23

2-4 at this time is consistent with 95% vaccine effectiveness mentioned earlier.

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Reply # 2198488 15-Mar-2019 11:54

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Thankfully I see plenty of rational debate in this thread, including discussion of herd immunity. Has anyone linked this or similar animations though illustrating why herd immunity is important? (had a quick watch of the penn and teller video and while I agree completely with it, it didn't really seem to illustrate why herd immunity works or how important it is to have a reasonably high portion of the population vaccinated.

https://imgur.com/gallery/8M7q8#J7LANQ4

Also came across an interesting simulator which lets you play with immunization and infection rates to see herd immunity in action (and how it breaks down when a relatively small but selfish percentage of the "herd" don't get vaccinated)

https://www.software3d.com/Home/Vax/Immunity.php

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Reply # 2199554 16-Mar-2019 14:42

Does anyone know why the recommendation for people in the 29 - 50 years age group, to get a booster vaccine. Only was released when this outbreak happened?

As I'm part way through the process of getting the 3 HPV vaccine shots done. (that vaccine didn't exist when I was at school). And I asked the nurse at the time, have there been any other changes to the vaccine schedule? And I was told that as long as I had received the required shots at the time, then I would be covered.

AFAIK it takes 4 weeks between receiving the vaccine, and when you are considered to be fully protected by it. That, plus the surge in demand on vaccine stocks causing shortages. It appears that someone in the Ministry of Health has made a serious stuff up. Why wasn't there a long term program to provide booster shots to those in the 29 - 50 age group? Instead of scrambling to reach these people, while the measles outbreak is occurring?

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Reply # 2199562 16-Mar-2019 14:49

Aredwood: Does anyone know why the recommendation for people in the 29 - 50 years age group, to get a booster vaccine. Only was released when this outbreak happened?

As I'm part way through the process of getting the 3 HPV vaccine shots done. (that vaccine didn't exist when I was at school). And I asked the nurse at the time, have there been any other changes to the vaccine schedule? And I was told that as long as I had received the required shots at the time, then I would be covered.

AFAIK it takes 4 weeks between receiving the vaccine, and when you are considered to be fully protected by it. That, plus the surge in demand on vaccine stocks causing shortages. It appears that someone in the Ministry of Health has made a serious stuff up. Why wasn't there a long term program to provide booster shots to those in the 29 - 50 age group? Instead of scrambling to reach these people, while the measles outbreak is occurring?

I asked this myself but the later media meetings did too and elaborate.

A single dose is considered 95% effective if the person gains immunity. The 2nd shot ensures take on those difficult persons and raises the effectiveness to 97%

So though we all had a single shot, as long as it took. It's still effective.
In the past when I banged myself up they checked I was advised to take booster tetanus then for example

It may be they expect people to visit the doc/go now and then and be advised case by case

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