Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20
Oblivian
6661 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

  #2198299 14-Mar-2019 23:05
Send private message

Todays media stand-up (live on FB daily) outlined the stats after a question was raised (like the linked 2017 numbers)

 

Of the 28:

 

0 Shot: 18 (presumed 'majority'

 

1 Shot: 6

 

2 Shot: 4 (up from 2 yesterday - noted as rare/minority)

 

 


Affiliate link
 
 
 

Affiliate link: LastPass securely stores your passwords and other personal data.

gzt

gzt
13711 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2198475 15-Mar-2019 11:23
Send private message

2-4 at this time is consistent with 95% vaccine effectiveness mentioned earlier.

sidefx
3611 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #2198488 15-Mar-2019 11:54
Send private message

Thankfully I see plenty of rational debate in this thread, including discussion of herd immunity. Has anyone linked this or similar animations though illustrating why herd immunity is important? (had a quick watch of the penn and teller video and while I agree completely with it, it didn't really seem to illustrate why herd immunity works or how important it is to have a reasonably high portion of the population vaccinated. 

 

https://imgur.com/gallery/8M7q8#J7LANQ4 

 

Also came across an interesting simulator which lets you play with immunization and infection rates to see herd immunity in action (and how it breaks down when a relatively small but selfish percentage of the "herd" don't get vaccinated)

 

https://www.software3d.com/Home/Vax/Immunity.php

 

 





"I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there."         | Electric Kiwi | Sharesies
              - Richard Feynman




Aredwood
3885 posts

Uber Geek


  #2199554 16-Mar-2019 14:42

Does anyone know why the recommendation for people in the 29 - 50 years age group, to get a booster vaccine. Only was released when this outbreak happened?


As I'm part way through the process of getting the 3 HPV vaccine shots done. (that vaccine didn't exist when I was at school). And I asked the nurse at the time, have there been any other changes to the vaccine schedule? And I was told that as long as I had received the required shots at the time, then I would be covered.

AFAIK it takes 4 weeks between receiving the vaccine, and when you are considered to be fully protected by it. That, plus the surge in demand on vaccine stocks causing shortages. It appears that someone in the Ministry of Health has made a serious stuff up. Why wasn't there a long term program to provide booster shots to those in the 29 - 50 age group? Instead of scrambling to reach these people, while the measles outbreak is occurring?





Oblivian
6661 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

  #2199562 16-Mar-2019 14:49
Send private message

Aredwood: Does anyone know why the recommendation for people in the 29 - 50 years age group, to get a booster vaccine. Only was released when this outbreak happened?


As I'm part way through the process of getting the 3 HPV vaccine shots done. (that vaccine didn't exist when I was at school). And I asked the nurse at the time, have there been any other changes to the vaccine schedule? And I was told that as long as I had received the required shots at the time, then I would be covered.

AFAIK it takes 4 weeks between receiving the vaccine, and when you are considered to be fully protected by it. That, plus the surge in demand on vaccine stocks causing shortages. It appears that someone in the Ministry of Health has made a serious stuff up. Why wasn't there a long term program to provide booster shots to those in the 29 - 50 age group? Instead of scrambling to reach these people, while the measles outbreak is occurring?


I asked this myself but the later media meetings did too and elaborate.

A single dose is considered 95% effective if the person gains immunity. The 2nd shot ensures take on those difficult persons and raises the effectiveness to 97%

So though we all had a single shot, as long as it took. It's still effective.
In the past when I banged myself up they checked I was advised to take booster tetanus then for example

It may be they expect people to visit the doc/go now and then and be advised case by case

Oblivian
6661 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

  #2201416 19-Mar-2019 10:33
Send private message

Amidst the other goings on down here. CDHB have done an update

 

30 confirmed (increase of 2 in a week)

 

2 Investigating. (down from 20)

 

Looks like something has done the trick.


JimmyH
2738 posts

Uber Geek


  #2202003 19-Mar-2019 20:27
Send private message

Coil:

 

JimmyH:

 

What I don't understand is how children who are able to be vaccinated (some medically can't) are allowed to be in early childhood education centres or schools where they are a hazard to other children?

 

If a child had nut allergies we rightly wouldn't allow all the other kids to bring peanut butter sandwiches, as they could literally kill the child with the allergy. Yet some kids with conditions like leukemia and egg allergies can't have some or all vaccines, and for some kids the vaccine doesn't work effectively, and these kids are at extreme risk if unvaccinated children mix with them and give them a condition such as measles. And an infant dying of measles is a truly terrible thing to witness.

 

Personally, I accept a parents right to decide on whether medical treatment should be provided to their children in *most* circumstances. However, I think if a child is able to be vaccinated and isn't then they are a hazard to other children. On this basis they shouldn't be allowed into a early childhood centre, and should have to do their schooling by correspondence. Otherwise they could literally kill other children.

 

 

Just because someone is not vaccinated, it does not mean they are a walking killing machine. 
As others have said before, just because you have had a vaccination, it also doesn't make you completely immune and if the herd immunity is strong then the chances of something developing and spreading is very small. So those ones which medically can't have it done are generally pretty safe and of no concern.

 

 

Except they are. Diseases like measles are highly contagious. Kids who can't be vaccinated or are too young to be vaccinated are very vulnerable. Measles can make them sick. It can even kill them. If you have ever seen a kid in hospital because of severe measles issues it's tragic to watch. So I remain of the view that unvaccinated people are a real hazard, particularly during an outbreak. And I as the parent of a newborn who isn't old enough to be vaccinated yet, I reserve my deepest and most profound contempt for the anti-vaxx crowd. And I do think that barring unvaccinated kids from childcare services would be a good thing - it would protect the other kids, and also create an incentive for parents to vaccinate kids.




msukiwi
1527 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2202888 21-Mar-2019 15:43
Send private message

...and from Stuff today:

 

"On Thursday, the Canterbury District Health Board (CDHB) said the number of confirmed cases had risen to 34, with another five suspected."


kingdragonfly
7129 posts

Uber Geek


  #2204402 24-Mar-2019 20:00
Send private message

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12214798

Italian anti-vax politician hospitalised with chickenpox

Massimiliano Fedriga, the president of the Friuli-Venezia Giulia region and an anti-vax figure, was in hospital for four days after he contracted chickenpox.

An Italian politician who is against the country's mandatory vaccination laws has been hospitalised after contracting chickenpox.

Massimiliano Fedriga, a member of Italy's far-right League party, used Twitter to reveal he was ill, having spent the last four days in hospital with chickenpox.

"I'm fine, I'm at home in convalescence, and I thank everyone," he said.

But his revelation has since been mocked by social media users calling it "karma" for catching the highly contagious infection - which can be deadly in adults - after his public opposal to compulsory vaccinations against 12 diseases, including chickenpox.

...

Rikkitic
Awrrr
15598 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2204406 24-Mar-2019 20:13
Send private message

kingdragonfly: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12214798

Italian anti-vax politician hospitalised with chickenpox

Massimiliano Fedriga, the president of the Friuli-Venezia Giulia region and an anti-vax figure, was in hospital for four days after he contracted chickenpox.

An Italian politician who is against the country's mandatory vaccination laws has been hospitalised after contracting chickenpox.

Massimiliano Fedriga, a member of Italy's far-right League party, used Twitter to reveal he was ill, having spent the last four days in hospital with chickenpox.

"I'm fine, I'm at home in convalescence, and I thank everyone," he said.

But his revelation has since been mocked by social media users calling it "karma" for catching the highly contagious infection - which can be deadly in adults - after his public opposal to compulsory vaccinations against 12 diseases, including chickenpox.

...

 

Karma indeed. There is a god after all. I hope he really itched. Maybe he will get measles next.

 

 





Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 


Oblivian
6661 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

  #2205377 26-Mar-2019 22:07
Send private message

Sudden spike in confirmed in AKL region.

 

(4 close proximity to earlier case)

 

And now they've announced VA99 into christchurch 19 March had an infected/contagious passenger...

 

Click to see full size


kingdragonfly
7129 posts

Uber Geek


  #2206197 28-Mar-2019 12:50
Send private message

I went to my GP for a measles shot.

The nurse told me since I was born before 1969, it was assumed I was vaccinated.

msukiwi
1527 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2206480 28-Mar-2019 18:48
Send private message

From Stuff: (28/03)

 

Canterbury medical officer of health Dr Ramon Pink said on Thursday the number of confirmed cases in Canterbury had increased to 37. Another nine cases were under investigation.


Oblivian
6661 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

  #2209458 2-Apr-2019 15:25
Send private message

CDHB : 39


Rikkitic
Awrrr
15598 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2209465 2-Apr-2019 15:49
Send private message

I'm off for my flu vaccination tomorrow. Yay for science!

 

 





Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 


1 | ... | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic





News and reviews »

Google Bringing First Cloud Region to Aotearoa New Zealand
Posted 10-Aug-2022 08:51


ANZ To Move to FIS Modern Banking Platform
Posted 10-Aug-2022 08:28


GoPro Hero10 Black Review
Posted 8-Aug-2022 17:41


Amazon to Acquire iRobot
Posted 6-Aug-2022 11:41


Samsung x LIFE Picture Collection Brings Iconic Moments in History to The Frame
Posted 4-Aug-2022 17:04


Norton Consumer Cyber Safety Pulse Report: Phishing for New Bait on Social Media
Posted 4-Aug-2022 16:50


Microsoft Announces New Solutions for Threat Intelligence and Attack Surface Management
Posted 3-Aug-2022 21:54


Seagate Addresses Hyperscale Workloads with Enterprise-Class Nytro SSDs
Posted 3-Aug-2022 21:50


Visa Launching Eco-friendly Payment Solutions in New Zealand
Posted 3-Aug-2022 21:48


NCR Delivers Services to Run Bank of New Zealand ATM Network
Posted 30-Jul-2022 11:06


New HP Portfolio Supports New Era of Hybrid Work
Posted 28-Jul-2022 17:14


Harman Kardon Launches Citation MultiBeam 1100 Soundbar
Posted 28-Jul-2022 17:10


Nanogirl Labs Launches Creator Project
Posted 28-Jul-2022 17:05


Marvel Snap Launches as an Action Collectible Card Game
Posted 26-Jul-2022 17:46


Jabra Talk 65 Review
Posted 26-Jul-2022 17:31









Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.







Backblaze unlimited backup