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kingdragonfly
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  #2249830 2-Jun-2019 10:15
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It's a sad statement on humanity and entitlement that some know they are infectious but would still board a plane.

The CDC may start using no-fly lists.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/23/health/measles-do-not-fly-list/index.html

Health officials considered no-fly list to prevent measles transmission

By Debra Goldschmidt, CNN

State and local health officials have consulted with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in recent months about the possibility of preventing individuals from flying to prevent measles transmission.

This year, there have been such discussions about eight individuals in five states, as first reported by the Washington Post on Thursday.

The eight individuals were either confirmed to be infected, believed to have a high probability of having measles or at high risk due to not being immune to the highly contagious virus and suspected of being in close contact with someone who has measles, CDC spokeswoman Caitlin Shockey told CNN.

She characterized the conversations as "pre-discussions" and said that state and local health departments contacted the CDC to say "we have people that we may have to place on the do not board list."

Measles in Maine means half the states in the US now have cases of this highly contagious disease

The "do not board" list is a tool the federal government can use to prevent an infectious person from flying while sick, explained Dr. Martin Cetron, director of the CDC's Division of Global Migration and Quarantine.

This measure has been used since 2007 for patients who have tuberculosis and in 2014 was used twice for measles.

After trying to dissuade a passenger who is sick and contagious from traveling on a plane, state or local health officials may contact the CDC to request assistance. The agency then has to verify that attempts were made to prevent the individual from traveling and that the person has flight reservations. The CDC speaks to the airline to arrange for any fees related to canceling the trip to be waved.

Then, the CDC works with the Department of Homeland Security to place the person on a public health do not board list, which tells the airline not to issue a boarding pass, Cetron told CNN. He said that it's a persuasive option. "Ninety-something percent of the time, when we inform people we want them to change their mind and we can tell the airline not to issue a boarding pass, they change their mind."

In the instances that have come up this year due to measles, all of the individuals decided not to travel without the CDC contacting them, Shockey said.

The states that contacted the CDC about the possible need for this intervention were California, which has reported 47 cases of measles this year; Illinois, which has reported eight cases of measles this year; Oklahoma, which has had one case; Washington, which has reported 79 cases; and New York, which has reported more than 630 cases.
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  #2280397 20-Jul-2019 19:14
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/113900159/auckland-measles-outbreak-with-149-cases-what-is-being-done-to-stop-the-disease-spreading

Auckland measles outbreak: With 149 cases, what is being done to stop the disease spreading?

Nine more Aucklanders have contracted measles, bringing the total number in the region to 149.

Auckland is experiencing an outbreak of the highly infectious and potentially life-threatening viral illness, accounting for the majority of the country's 221 cases this year.

In response to the climbing number of cases, Auckland Regional Public Health Service has changed the way it is approaching the outbreak.

"As it is now difficult to stop the spread of the virus, the objective is to protect those most at risk of catching measles or developing complications from the disease," ARPHS medical officer of health Dr William Rainger told Stuff.

Rainger said it was "standard practice" to change the public health response in an ongoing outbreak.

In the beginning, public health activity was aimed at preventing "any spread" of the virus, by isolating the person with measles and following up with those who may have been exposed.

As the number of measles cases rose, this level of contact tracing became "neither sustainable or effective" because the virus was circulating more widely in the community, he said.

This approach was often unable to eliminate the spread of the illness, "especially if there are communities with low levels of measles immunity", Rainger said.

From last week, ARPHS' focus was now on isolating cases and following up with those at highest risk of catching the virus, or at higher risk of more severe disease.

This included those most vulnerable to complications or hospitalisation.

Measles causes complications in up to 30 per cent of cases, including ear infections, pneumonia, seizures, and in rare cases, swelling on the brain.

Typically, those under 5 and people 20 and over are at greatest risk of complications.

Typically about one in 10 cases require hospitalisation, but data from ESR show about 43 per cent of cases in New Zealand this year required hospital treatment.

GPs were continuing to test suspected cases and asking them to go into isolation, Rainger said.

Suspected cases were now also given information from their GP to give to any work or social contacts they may have exposed, if measles was confirmed.

Contacts with a lower risk of exposure now need to take action themselves, checking their immunity and staying at home away from others if not immune, Rainger said.

The change comes after ARPHS announced it was bringing forward the vaccination age in the region to 12-months, to protect those most vulnerable.

ARPHS has contacted more than 4500 people exposed to measles this year.

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  #2280413 20-Jul-2019 19:46
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I changed jobs a few years ago from a New Zealand based company to an Australian based company.
As I am often in a cramped space with the general public with no escape, I was required to complete a medical which included blood tests to prove my immunity to all common infectious diseases, to which you would to be expected to be vaccinated against.

Having been vaccinated in the past and regularly getting boosters, I wasn’t worried about my status, however I still asked the company doctors what happens if someone isn’t vaccinated. Their response was if you weren’t vaccinated, you would be required to be vaccinated. If you can’t be vaccinated, they have to see a reason why, where employment would be declined in the interest of public health for non-medical reasons.

And yes, before you did the medical your offer of employment and contract stated a requirement to pass the company medical, any reason that you couldn’t pass would terminate your employment immediately.

It worries me that it is the lowest socio-economic areas who have the least risk of catching measles etc than the higher socio-economic areas.



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  #2280453 20-Jul-2019 21:01
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It worries me that it is the lowest socio-economic areas who have the least risk of catching measles etc than the higher socio-economic areas.

 

It worries me that kids in any areas have a material risk of catching measles. It's a very serious disease that is entirely preventable. I care no more, and no less, for the child of someone with a high income who catches this disease than I do for the child of a low income earner. And in all cases, if a child who was able to be vaccinated catches the disease because their parent deliberately chose not to vaccinate them, then I hold that parent in the deepest contempt.

 

It's one thing to believe that the earth is flat or that reptiles taking human form secretly control us, but quite another level to deliberately withhold proven safe medical care, and hazard the life of your young child and others.

 

 


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  #2280462 20-Jul-2019 21:26
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networkn:

 

Unless you do not vaccinate your children because they have a legitimate medical risk that would threaten/end their lives, you are a class A selfish IDIOT.

 

There are people on the planet who would *actually* die if they were immunized, and the only way they can survive is if everyone who won't, does vaccinate. Herd Immunity is their only protection. You aren't just protecting the lives of your kids if you vaccinate, you are protecting the lives of the people who legitimately can't.

 

 

Couldn't agree more.  It doesn't have to be someone with a rare autoimmune issue or otherwise think of all the babies in SCBU or NICU who rely on herd immunity for example.


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Not completely on topic, as there's a real problem with DR Congo.

In April, a doctor fighting an Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo was killed in an attack.

Several gunmen attacked the hospital in one of the epicenters of the Ebola outbreak.

Attackers are targeting foreigners because they incorrectly believed the foreigners had brought the Ebola virus to Congo.

The violence is the latest in a series of attacks on Ebola treatment centers by militiamen and those distrustful of the international response to the outbreak.

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  #2302180 20-Aug-2019 09:45
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I probably should have kept up with my worm graph

 

 

There has been a big spike in Auckland's measles outbreak, with 126 new cases in the last eight days.

 

The big rise in infections takes the year's total to 509 and made last week the worst since the outbreak started.

 

That's not unsubstantial




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  #2302181 20-Aug-2019 09:47
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I have finally got off my medication and can go and get a top up vaccination!


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  #2302234 20-Aug-2019 10:02
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You may not like Boris Johnson, but he is taking on anti-vaxxer

Boris Johnson declares war on anti-vaxx movement with campaign to counter vaccine scaremongering

‘We need decisive action to make sure communities are properly immunised,’ prime minister says

Independent, by Eleanor Busby

Boris Johnson has unveiled a campaign to stop the spread of misleading anti-vaxx information and to boost the number of children receiving vaccinations following a rise in measles cases.

Parents will be offered new evidence-based advice to address their concerns about jabs and to correct false information about the dangers of vaccinations, the prime minister will announce.

Just 87 per cent of children have the full dose of the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) jab, a decline on previous years, which Downing Street says may be linked to the spread of measles.

Mr Johnson has called for health leaders to renew their efforts to ensure 95 per cent have had both doses of the MMR vaccine.

Social media companies will also be called to a summit to encourage them to promote accurate information about vaccination as part of the plans to improve immunisation.

Britain has lost its “measles-free” status with the World Health Organisation (WHO) three years after the virus was eliminated. During the first quarter of 2019, there were 231 cases of measles in the UK.

Speaking ahead of a hospital visit in the southwest, Mr Johnson said he was “determined” to step up efforts to tackle the spread of measles, adding one case of the “horrible” disease was too many.

NHS England will write to all GPs urging them to promote “catch-up” vaccination programmes for MMR, and will seek to strengthen the role of local immunisation co-ordinators to improve uptake.

It comes after a report warned half a million UK children were not immunised against measles from 2010 to 2017.

France, the most vaccine-sceptical nation in the world, where a third of people believe the jabs are unsafe, last year made routine vaccination compulsory.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-anti-vaxx-movement-vaccination-parents-children-mmr-measles-a9064496.html

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  #2302240 20-Aug-2019 10:08
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The flag flight carrier of Israel, "El Al", flight attendant dies 4 months after contracting measles on plane from New York

43-year-old Rotem Amitai, who had been vaccinated with 1 dose out of the recommended 2, becomes 3rd fatality in recent outbreak of highly contagious disease

By Times Of Isreal staff

An Israeli flight attendant who was hospitalized in April after catching measles on a plane has died, becoming the third fatality in an outbreak of the highly contagious disease.

The El Al flight attendant, named Tuesday as Rotem Amitai, 43, had contracted measles on a flight from New York in late March.

Her condition deteriorated later that month and she was moved to an isolated intensive care unit, after slipping into a coma and suffering brain damage.

She was diagnosed with meningoencephalitis — a complication of the measles virus that is similar to having both meningitis and encephalitis, respectively infections or inflammations of the lining of the brain and the brain itself.

Amitai, a mother of three, was working on board El AL flight 002 from John F. Kennedy Airport to Tel Aviv on March 26.

“Rotem was a wonderful person and a dedicated mother,” a statement from her family said.

Blood tests revealed that she had been vaccinated with only one shot against measles instead of the two inoculations recommended for her age group. Consequently, El Al instructed all flight attendants at the time to get measles shots.

A 10-year-old boy is in a coma at Schneider Medical Center in Petah Tikva with suspected brain damage and is attached to a ventilator, after similarly contracting measles.

In November, an 18-month-old toddler in Jerusalem died of the disease, the first recorded death from measles in Israel in the past 15 years. A month later, an 82-year-old woman became the second fatality.

Israel has seen an outbreak of measles in the past year, recording 4,292 cases between July 2018 and July 2019, according to the ministry.

Infections have mostly centered on the country’s ultra-Orthodox community, where inoculation rates have generally been lower than the rest of the population.

In New York, too, officials are struggling to contain a swelling number of measles cases centered in ultra-Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods while battling lawsuits over their efforts to require vaccinations.

The measles cases in Rockland and in Brooklyn have been traced to unvaccinated members of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community who traveled to Israel. Orthodox Jewish leaders say a small faction of vaccine opponents in the community have allowed the disease to spread.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/el-al-flight-attendant-dies-4-months-after-contracting-measles-on-plane-from-ny/



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  #2302241 20-Aug-2019 10:08
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Jesus, do you need to post a freaking massive picture with every single post you make?!

 

 

 

 


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  #2302256 20-Aug-2019 10:15
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Thanks for the support

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  #2303301 21-Aug-2019 20:02
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If you are an anti-vaxxer, this is on you. Another 39 new measles cases in Auckland, 585 total so far. And nine out of ten aren't vaccinated.

 

It is on you, damned dumb conspiracy theorist.





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  #2303314 21-Aug-2019 20:19
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freitasm:

 

If you are an anti-vaxxer, this is on you. Another 39 new measles cases in Auckland, 585 total so far. And nine out of ten aren't vaccinated.

 

It is on you, damned dumb conspiracy theorist.

 

 

Let's totally deflate their conspiracy theories by coming up with a scientific reason for that other one out of ten.

 

 





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  #2303331 21-Aug-2019 20:45
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elpenguino:

 

freitasm:

 

If you are an anti-vaxxer, this is on you. Another 39 new measles cases in Auckland, 585 total so far. And nine out of ten aren't vaccinated.

 

It is on you, damned dumb conspiracy theorist.

 

 

Let's totally deflate their conspiracy theories by coming up with a scientific reason for that other one out of ten.

 

 

There is already an explanation. The vaccine is 93% effective against measles.





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