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  # 2303341 21-Aug-2019 21:15
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freitasm:

 

If you are an anti-vaxxer, this is on you. Another 39 new measles cases in Auckland, 585 total so far. And nine out of ten aren't vaccinated.

 

It is on you, damned dumb conspiracy theorist.

 

 

It seems time that the laws of the land were changed to avoid serious health issues in the future. It must be made compulsory..


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  # 2303363 21-Aug-2019 21:45
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Mahon:

freitasm:


If you are an anti-vaxxer, this is on you. Another 39 new measles cases in Auckland, 585 total so far. And nine out of ten aren't vaccinated.


It is on you, damned dumb conspiracy theorist.



It seems time that the laws of the land were changed to avoid serious health issues in the future. It must be made compulsory..


agreed. Except for medical reasons. Religious exemptions NO




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  # 2305455 24-Aug-2019 19:31
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Kiwi traveller with measles visited Disneyland

Stuff,

A teenager who travelled from New Zealand to Southern California this month was infectious with highly contagious measles and may have exposed others at Disneyland and a nearby hotel, US health officials say.

The Orange County Health Care Agency said the exposures could have occurred August 11 at the Desert Palms Hotel in Anaheim and on August 12 at Disneyland and the Disney California Adventure Park.

The teen also visited Universal Studios, the TCL Chinese Theatres on Hollywood Boulevard (formerly known as Grauman's Chinese Theatre), Madame Tussauds, The Original Farmers Market, and Santa Monica Pier and Beach, the Los Angeles County health department said.

The girl remained in Southern California through until August 15 and has since returned to New Zealand, said Dr Nichole Quick, the county's health care officer.

The agency said it has been working with the facilities to reach people who had close contact. There are no current reports that anyone has contracted measles from the teen, Quick said.

She said she expects to see more measles cases, generally, among international travellers who visit California because of an increase in the illness overseas.

"We're in general concerned with the outbreaks going on in places in this country as well as internationally,'' she said.

The teen also travelled to nearby Los Angeles County. A message left for that county's health care agency was not immediately returned.

Disneyland officials on Friday said no employees at the theme park were reported to have contracted the illness. Dr Pamela Hymel, Disneyland's chief medical officer, said in a statement that health officials said the risk to employees and visitors "is likely low.''

The park boosted an existing immunisation programme earlier this year for employees, she said.

Disneyland and adjacent Disney California Adventure Park are major tourist destinations, drawing tens of thousands of visitors a day.

In 2015, a measles outbreak involving Disneyland sickened 147 people and spread across the US and into Canada.

As of early this month, Los Angeles County health officials reported 16 measles cases among county residents this year and 10 others among non-residents who travelled through.

Auckland Regional Public Health said on Friday there had been 616 cases in the region this year - up 109 cases since Monday - with the majority in the Counties Manukau area.

The Orange County health agency said people who may have been exposed should monitor themselves for symptoms such as fever and rash occurring up to 21 days from exposure.

Quick urged anyone who has symptoms to call their health care provider before going to the doctor to avoid additional exposures. People are also urged to check their records to determine if they have been vaccinated or previously had measles.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/115253508/kiwi-traveler-with-measles-visited-disneyland

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  # 2305463 24-Aug-2019 20:09
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kingdragonfly:

Quick urged anyone who has symptoms to call their health care provider before going to the doctor to avoid additional exposures. People are also urged to check their records to determine if they have been vaccinated or previously had measles.

 

Who are "health care provider" if is not your doctor or ER. But wait you have to see your health care provider before going to the doctor.

 

Well I googled and typical of the USA and lets all dash off to: a durable medical equipment company or physical or speech therapist and don't forget "bill Shock" cause you will certainly need a "health care provider" for that.

 

Who Are Health Care Providers?

 

The health care provider you’re probably the most familiar with is your PCP or primary care physician. But there are all different types of health care providers. Any type of health care service you might need is provided by some type of health care provider.

 

Here are some non-physician examples of health care providers:

 

  • The physical therapist that helps you to recover from your knee injury
  • The home health care company that provides your visiting nurse
  • The durable medical equipment company that provides your home oxygen or wheelchair
  • Your pharmacy
  • The laboratory that draws and processes your blood tests
  • The imaging facility that does your mammograms, X-rays, and MRI scans
  • The speech therapist that works with you to make sure you can swallow food safely after a stroke
  • The outpatient surgery clinic where you had your colonoscopy done
  • The specialty laboratory that does your DNA test
  • The urgent care center or walk-in clinic in your neighborhood shopping center
  • The hospital where you receive inpatient (or in some cases, outpatient) care





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  # 2305474 24-Aug-2019 21:24
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The reason they want you to call first is so you don't bowl into the waiting room and sit there infecting everyone else in the room. The same protocols apply with other infectious illnesses.
Our local doctors get you to ring again when you arrive (but still outside) and they take you straight into the consultation.




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  # 2305567 25-Aug-2019 06:54
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Found this article: measles estimated death rate as is a high as 1 in 1,000, but more likely 1 in 2,300 (recent France, where there were a lot of anti-vaxxer, till law change)

Before vaccinations, a child was almost guaranteed to contract it, Similar to Chickenpox infectious.

https://www.unitypoint.org/blankchildrens/pedsgeekmd-article.aspx


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  # 2305569 25-Aug-2019 07:07
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Why Is Measles So Contagious?

An infected person who coughs or sneezes can spray the virus into the air in small droplets, which can remain suspended for up to two hours. People with measles are infectious for about four days before and four days after the appearance of the rash. Before there was a vaccine, nearly everyone in the United States became infected with measles before the age of 15. The disease kills about 1 in every 1,000 people infected, and those who survive have lifelong immunity.


A MEASLES OUTBREAK

In a hypothetical community where nobody has immunity from the measles virus, one infected person might infect 12 to 18 people, who might each infect another 12 to 18 people. At this rate, a small outbreak would quickly grow out of control.


THE HERD EFFECT

Every person who is successfully vaccinated reduces the potential sources of infection, thus reducing the risk to unvaccinated people. This reduction in risk is sometimes called the herd effect. The presence of vaccinated people helps slow the spread of the virus.


HERD IMMUNITY

For an outbreak to end quickly, each infected person must infect, on average, fewer than one other person. In this example, at least 17 of every 18 people (more than 94 percent) would need immunity. This threshold is sometimes called the herd immunity threshold.

To maintain herd immunity within a community over time, children need to be vaccinated at a high rate. The measles vaccine is ineffective in about 5 percent of people who have had only one dose, so two doses are recommended to ensure that nearly all children will get immunity before entering school.

New York Times, Paul Fine, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine; Clinical Infectious Diseases; Journal of Infectious Diseases; C.D.C.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/02/us/measles-facts.html

 
 
 
 


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  # 2307415 28-Aug-2019 17:14
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I'm currently listening to the hosts on the more FM afternoon shows have a tirade about non vaccinations it's quite good, but I await the abuse

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  # 2307607 29-Aug-2019 08:43
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Well the stats for Akl aren't looking flash are they. Here I was thinking we were headed to a lull around June after a big start.

 

15? students at 1 school shows is a good case to show how fast it spreads in close proximity


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  # 2308565 30-Aug-2019 17:36
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From the Ministry of Health:

 

 

“Despite an additional 57,000 MRR vaccines administered in the last 6 months, New Zealand has not escaped the outbreak of measles occurring globally,” Associate Minister Health Julie Anne Genter said.

 

“As of earlier today, there have been 762 confirmed cases of measles in the Auckland region.

 

“I want to reassure the public that co-ordinating the response to the measles outbreak will be a top priority for the Ministry of Health in the coming days.

 

“The Ministry has today activated the National Health Coordination Centre (the NHCC) to coordinate the response to the outbreak in Auckland and monitor the situation in the rest of New Zealand.

 

“The NHCC will work with Auckland’ DHBs and the Auckland regional Public Health Service and strengthen the response.

 

“People under the age of 50 , especially children, who have not been vaccinated, should seek a free vaccination from their doctor as soon as possible.

 

“Counties Manukau DHB has opened three outreach centres in South Auckland where people can go to get free MMR  vaccinations.

 

“Free vaccinations are available in the following locations in South Auckland over the coming weekend:

 

  • Free Church of Tonga, Mangere, Saturday 31 August, 9am-3pm
  • Middlemore Hospital Emergency Department, Manukau, Daily
  • Clendon Public Nursing Office, Clendon Shopping Centre, Manurewa, Daily, 9.30am-3pm
  • Contact Healthline 0800611116

“The additional five vaccinator nurses have been deployed to provide extra free services in Middlemore hospital and other outreach centres in South Auckland.  

 

“Counties Manukau DHB will be training 25 school nurses for a programme covering 34 high schools including alternative education and teen parent units.

 

“Schools are required to follow instructions from their local Medical Officer of Health. Information about when it is safe to return to school is given by the local Medical Officer of Health," said Julie Anne Genter.

 





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# 2308593 30-Aug-2019 18:09
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According to the TV, measles enters through your ear canals. I therefore am wearing earmuffs 24/7.


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  # 2308595 30-Aug-2019 18:18
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IMO it is time we had compulsory vaccinations. We have a nanny state government now, so hopefully they will bring on something to the betterment of everyone.


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  # 2308610 30-Aug-2019 19:17
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Nice idea but when one in  10,000 vaccinations goes wrong, the conspiracy nuts will be all over it.

 

 





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