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  #2569112 21-Sep-2020 11:41
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TechSol: Worrying What I heard from two people I know who returned through MIQ from overseas in the last couple of weeks. Apparently day one people mix with day 14 people in at least two facilities......

 

Thats been going on since day1 . Nothing has been done about it. Nothing .
Its been pointed out to those in charge that this is happening (during interviews) , and they were told there are photos & vids to proove it  , but its allways been deny deny deny .

 

Again , its wait for embarrassing proof the system has failed ,only  then apply a fix


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  #2569137 21-Sep-2020 12:19
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1101:

TechSol: Worrying What I heard from two people I know who returned through MIQ from overseas in the last couple of weeks. Apparently day one people mix with day 14 people in at least two facilities......


Thats been going on since day1 . Nothing has been done about it. Nothing .
Its been pointed out to those in charge that this is happening (during interviews) , and they were told there are photos & vids to proove it  , but its allways been deny deny deny .


Again , its wait for embarrassing proof the system has failed ,only  then apply a fix



Perhaps I’m remembering wrong, but I recall this being pointed out a while back and the response being it was isolated to some facilities who were told to sort it - think that came from Digby Webb.




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  #2569150 21-Sep-2020 12:51
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well ultimately the buck stops at the top unfortunately





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  #2569220 21-Sep-2020 13:12
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Batman:

 

decision time today. i'ma call it -

 

level 1.9 for AKL and level 1.5 elsewhere

 

 

Level 2 for AKL fr Thursday, Level 1 elsewhere from Tuesday





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  #2569230 21-Sep-2020 13:15
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Auckland moves to Level 2 (from 2.5) at 11.59pm Wednesday. The rest of NZ moves to L1 at 11.59pm today. Excellent.  


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  #2569279 21-Sep-2020 13:31
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Surprised that level 1 will 'NOT' be revised to ensure masks on internal flights and public transport.
Optional was what I heard in the news conference.

 

Taiwan, who have gone without community spread for much longer have kept masks as compulsary for transport.
Thinking of the outbreak our last 1/2 day of Level 1 , cases were related to a bus trip. 

 

Puzzled about this.  
Its a small measure with big impact.


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  #2569280 21-Sep-2020 13:35
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ezbee:

 

Surprised that level 1 will 'NOT' be revised to ensure masks on internal flights and public transport.
Optional was what I heard in the news conference.

 

Taiwan, who have gone without community spread for much longer have kept masks as compulsary for transport.
Thinking of the outbreak our last 1/2 day of Level 1 , cases were related to a bus trip. 

 

Puzzled about this.  
Its a small measure with big impact.

 

 

Masks are still required in Auckland at level 2. If Aucklanders travel to anywhere else in the country they should keep their Level 2 requirements - distancing, masks in public transport, etc.

 

Flight to and from Auckland require masks - everywhere else it's optional but recommended.





 

 

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  #2569334 21-Sep-2020 14:05
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Press release:

 

 

The Coalition Government has committed to invest $27 million in COVID-19 vaccine development through the global COVAX Facility, Foreign Minister Winston Peters announced today.

 

“The COVAX Facility is a key part of our COVID-19 Vaccine Strategy to obtain safe and effective vaccines. It allows us to invest in a high-quality, diversified portfolio of COVID-19 vaccine candidates. This will ensure we are spreading risk and keeping our options open,” said Mr Peters.

 

“New Zealand expressed interest in joining the COVAX Facility in July, which allowed us to support international efforts to shape how the Facility works. We have officially confirmed our commitment to the COVAX Facility and will invest an initial $27 million to support development and manufacturing. It will act as a pre-purchase, should any of the vaccine candidates be successful.”

 

Mr Peters said additional funding will be required to purchase COVID-19 vaccines if any of the candidates in the COVAX Facility portfolio are successful, but the exact amount of additional funding is not yet known.

 

This initial investment of $27 million is part of the allocation the Government announced in August from the COVID-19 Response and Recovery Fund.

 

“The agreement will ensure that New Zealand receives enough vaccines to cover up to 50 per cent of the population of New Zealand and the Realm, which includes Tokelau, Cook Islands and Niue” said Mr Peters.

 

“It’s important that all countries are able to access sufficient amounts of vaccines to protect their populations and contribute to getting the pandemic under control on a global level.

 

“Joining the COVAX Facility is complementary to the other strands of the COVID-19 Vaccine Strategy, which includes advance purchase arrangements with pharmaceutical companies, investing in global research and increasing manufacturing capability,” said Mr Peters.

 

ENDS

 

NOTE FOR EDITORS:

 

The COVAX Facility was recently launched by Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, in partnership with the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) and the World Health Organisation (WHO). Gavi is a public-private partnership, including the World Health Organization, UNICEF, the World Bank and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. It vaccinates millions of children worldwide for a range of diseases.

 

The COVAX Facility is the vaccines pillar of the Access to COVID-19 Tools (ACT) Accelerator. The ACT Accelerator is a ground-breaking global collaboration to accelerate the development, production, and equitable access to COVID-19 tests, treatments, and vaccines. The COVAX Facility aims is to accelerate the development and manufacture of COVID-19 vaccines, and to guarantee fair and equitable access for every country in the world.

 

More information about COVAX can be found on the Gavi website: https://www.gavi.org/covid19/covax-facility

 





 

 

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  #2569335 21-Sep-2020 14:07
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freitasm:

 

Masks are still required in Auckland at level 2. If Aucklanders travel to anywhere else in the country they should keep their Level 2 requirements - distancing, masks in public transport, etc.

 

Flight to and from Auckland require masks - everywhere else it's optional but recommended.

 

 

I'm in Wellington and will certainly be keeping  mine on for a while yet when on the train.

 

Number of active cases tracking the right direction too, down to 62.





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  #2569336 21-Sep-2020 14:07
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ezbee:

 

Surprised that level 1 will 'NOT' be revised to ensure masks on internal flights and public transport.
Optional was what I heard in the news conference.

 

Taiwan, who have gone without community spread for much longer have kept masks as compulsary for transport.
Thinking of the outbreak our last 1/2 day of Level 1 , cases were related to a bus trip. 

 

Puzzled about this.  
Its a small measure with big impact.

 

 

 

 

Same here. I am sure that they did discuss this  a few weeks ago,  that masks were likely to become par of level 1, so a level 1.5. I would also like to see contact tracing retained. Otherwise any town that gets a new case popping up that can't be linked could go straight back into level 3 again, like occurred in Auckland, as they weren't able to trace where it had come from.

 

The DG did say he talked to Professor Baker this morning, who is very pro masks, so I wonder why the DG didn't recommend this to government. Or maybe they did and the government didn't take this recommendation up? Level 1 and 2 aren't fully compatible levels, so we are again having to trust everyone coming from Auckland will do the right thing and wear masks on public transport etc, when we know some people won't. 

 

The other thing about masks is that it has been reported that there could be some indication that they could help people develop immunity, because people would be subjected to lower levels of the virus than they would be if they weren't wearing one. It does appear that he more of the virus people are subjected to, the worse the symptoms people get. eg Some doctors working with covid patients can get it bad, and several have died from it, even when young. 


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  #2569339 21-Sep-2020 14:13
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freitasm:

 

Masks are still required in Auckland at level 2. If Aucklanders travel to anywhere else in the country they should keep their Level 2 requirements - distancing, masks in public transport, etc.

 

Flight to and from Auckland require masks - everywhere else it's optional but recommended.

 

 

I was also surprised at the dropping of masks outside Auckland, I had presumed  that while Auckland was still at 2 the rest of the country would remain at 1 + masks on PT as a extra level of protection, ( particularly when Aucklanders are free to travel)

 

- It also would have helped with Stigma... technically Aucklanders riding a Gondola/train/bus/uber in the rest of the country are "encouraged" to mask up... but now everyone else is not.....

 

I think certain a political party  might have had a hand in this move.... I might keep my masking on PT  until we get past the 7th in Auckland  ( which is when by my reckoning they should have gotten past zero active... touch wood)

 

 


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  #2570394 21-Sep-2020 15:28
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Disappointed masks aren't remaining a feature of level 1 (or 1.5 if you will) throughout NZ. I don't love wearing one but it's certainly better than getting the disease, and it appears masks are actually very effective.

 

I believe businesses, workplaces and public transport is still required to display the QR code poster at level 1  - this is a good thing, and I hope people continue to make good use of this to track their movements.





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  #2571391 21-Sep-2020 15:47
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antonknee:

 

Disappointed masks aren't remaining a feature of level 1 (or 1.5 if you will) throughout NZ. I don't love wearing one but it's certainly better than getting the disease, and it appears masks are actually very effective.

 

I believe businesses, workplaces and public transport is still required to display the QR code poster at level 1  - this is a good thing, and I hope people continue to make good use of this to track their movements.

 

 

Correct they still need tracing. It's one of the best firstline measures. With any luck they don't do a previous lvl1 and start taking them down (duh.. that was stupid of Z and a local countdown)

 

Just because they don't require it, doesn't mean everyone should stop and go turfing them out. Still a good idea for piece of mind. Shows you care for others somewhat. Couple of my workplaces are still enforcing being US influenced. But it is what it is.

 

It can still be driven by local retailer policies - expect Countdown and so on will do what they are now. Although they dropped the closing of every 2nd self terminal recently, they now play a message over the PA to remind people to keep ontop of it, best measures are to clean hands before going shopping, use provided wipes/sanitiser at the front door and recommend masks


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  #2571397 21-Sep-2020 15:59
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freitasm: The Coalition Government has committed to invest $27 million in COVID-19 vaccine development through the global COVAX Facility, Foreign Minister Winston Peters announced today.


A plus is Bill Gates supports GAVI.

A minus from Oxfam

GAVI's decisions are skewed by the pharmaceutical companies that sit on its board, non-governmental organisation Médecins Sans Frontières and development charity Oxfam, tell The Guardian.

"Pharmaceutical companies' representation on GAVI's board creates a conflict of interest. The current structure is far too cosy," says Mohga Kamal-Yanni, senior policy advisor at Oxfam.


From 2016, a background piece, pre-COVID

The Verge: This Bill Gates-backed fund wants to 'disrupt' vaccine delivery in poor countries

GAVI alliance turns to startups and new technology to boost immunization

...Since launching in 2000, GAVI has emerged as a prominent player in vaccine delivery, with nearly $10 billion in funding.

(The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has donated $1.5 billion.)

As an alliance of governments, NGOs, and private companies, GAVI works to negotiate with drug companies for lower-priced vaccines in poor countries, and provides aid until those countries can afford to pay for the drugs themselves.

GAVI’s efforts have helped to immunize more than 500 million children so far, according to its website, though the organization has faced some criticism for its close ties to pharmaceutical companies and how its prices are negotiated.

Some aid groups say GAVI should do more to make its low prices available to other organizations.
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  #2571428 21-Sep-2020 17:12
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Oblivian:

 

antonknee:

 

Disappointed masks aren't remaining a feature of level 1 (or 1.5 if you will) throughout NZ. I don't love wearing one but it's certainly better than getting the disease, and it appears masks are actually very effective.

 

I believe businesses, workplaces and public transport is still required to display the QR code poster at level 1  - this is a good thing, and I hope people continue to make good use of this to track their movements.

 

 

Correct they still need tracing. It's one of the best firstline measures. With any luck they don't do a previous lvl1 and start taking them down (duh.. that was stupid of Z and a local countdown)

 

Just because they don't require it, doesn't mean everyone should stop and go turfing them out. Still a good idea for piece of mind. Shows you care for others somewhat. Couple of my workplaces are still enforcing being US influenced. But it is what it is.

 

It can still be driven by local retailer policies - expect Countdown and so on will do what they are now. Although they dropped the closing of every 2nd self terminal recently, they now play a message over the PA to remind people to keep ontop of it, best measures are to clean hands before going shopping, use provided wipes/sanitiser at the front door and recommend masks

 

 

 

 

They appear to still be recommending people continue to use the tracing app. But IMO, anything voluntary often isn't done if it involves time and effort. Requiring retailers scan everyone coming in IMO is a small price to pay for level 1. Few countries anywhere int eh world are open as much as we have been, even in level 2. Disneyland for example in LA has been closed for 6 months, which shows the true cost of allowing covid to spread and living with it!


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