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  #2581313 8-Oct-2020 13:24
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Batman: Sorry I didn't read the article, i thought it said something else.

I was meaning we should have closed the borders and quarantined arrivals from the start, essentially so at the start what we are doing now. Essentially like Taiwan did. That would have avoided all the lockdowns.

But better late than never.

 

 

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  #2581316 8-Oct-2020 13:25
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Ok sorry




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  #2581321 8-Oct-2020 13:33
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Batman: Sorry I didn't read the article, i thought it said something else.

I was meaning we should have closed the borders and quarantined arrivals from the start, essentially do at the start what we are doing now. Essentially like Taiwan did. That would have avoided all the lockdowns.

But better late than never.

I think some people mentioned way back that no government would have done this at the start, and if they did, would risk mass rioting etc, which I agree!

 

Ok, so I guess January 2020, we close all borders, setup MIQ the following week, and with the massive lack of capability of our underfunded health system that uses antiquated systems, get that sorted the following week.

 

NO ONE knew the impact then. NZ politics already critcised us for an over reaction, too soon , too late, too long, lets open up a travel bubble next month to Victoria, etc. Beats me how you can complain about an easy fix being there as apparently hindsight is not a word, yet some wanted stupid things to happen, such as bubbles to Victoria, etc, slash the lockdowns.


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  #2581322 8-Oct-2020 13:37
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tdgeek:

 

NO ONE knew the impact then

 

 

I guess if no one watched the news in Spain and Italy and only watched the local news about the All Blacks then that'll be right.





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  #2581327 8-Oct-2020 13:49
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Batman:

 

tdgeek:

 

NO ONE knew the impact then

 

 

I guess if no one watched the news in Spain and Italy and only watched the local news about the All Blacks then that'll be right.

 

 

Like most other sane countries, yes in NZ they were indeed watched. Like most other sane countries we went early. No, that wasnt January 23rd or Feb 2nd

 

How BTW is Italy going? 3677 new cases yesterday, 2677 the day before. Plenty of practice has been in place there. NZ, still 0. Decide your result from that


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  #2581333 8-Oct-2020 14:13
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@freitasm, maybe you could arrange a charity fight between these two 🤡





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  #2581335 8-Oct-2020 14:16
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Tahiti seems to be having real problems along with French Polynesia.
Hopefully there is not a movement of people around greater pacific.
Pleasure boats, Fishing and Trading ?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/427871/10th-covid-19-fatality-in-tahiti

I added bolding to highlight some points.
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A 10th person has died in French Polynesia's Covid-19 pandemic as 491 cases remain active.

 

46 people with the disease are in Tahiti's hospital, including five in intensive care.

 

Of the 2410 Covid-19 cases, 2348 were recorded after the borders were reopened and mandatory quarantine requirements were abolished in July in order to boost tourism and revive the economy.

 

While most cases were detected in Tahiti, the virus reached several outer islands.

 

With the epidemic worsening, official updates have become less frequent.

 

Since the previous update two days ago, 130 new cases were recorded.
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  #2581343 8-Oct-2020 14:23
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sittingduckz:

 

@freitasm, maybe you could arrange a charity fight between these two 🤡

 

 

Fair call. I just get miffed over irrational posts where we were supposed to foretell eveything from back then. Look at where we are now, not only did we eliminate it, but when it snuck in, as expected, it was dealt with. Thats the only 90% you need to know, the other 10% are learnings we have learned.


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  #2581344 8-Oct-2020 14:25
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ezbee:

 

 

 

Of the 2410 Covid-19 cases, 2348 were recorded after the borders were reopened and mandatory quarantine requirements were abolished in July in order to boost tourism and revive the economy.

 

 

 

 

Very pertinent point here. Its a fine line between an acceptable risk and the economy. You can help the economy and manage Covid, but it has to be managed.


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  #2581360 8-Oct-2020 14:35
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ezbee:

 

Tahiti seems to be having real problems along with French Polynesia.
Hopefully there is not a movement of people around greater pacific.
Pleasure boats, Fishing and Trading ?""

 

 

 

 

That's one of the big issues of pacific "bubbles"

 

NZ and other source countries need to be assured that there is effective protocols to deal with the water traffic, ...

 

Its easy enough to demand that the Cooks or Samoa not accept any regular flights from outside the bubble, but small pleasure vessels are much trickier to enforce, also interactions between local vessels and external none bubble vessels at sea needs to be managed too.....


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  #2581477 8-Oct-2020 15:50
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DS248:

 

Princeton University report on the NZ Covid response.  Quite a long read but does provide some interesting background.  Of course, does not answer whether it was the right decision.  

 

https://successfulsocieties.princeton.edu/sites/successfulsocieties/files/NewZealand_COVID_FInal.pdf

 

 

 

 

Thanks - That was an interesting read. I was unaware how much this was a just in time response at the beginning and interesting to compare my memories of what we were being told vs the facts and issues
(ie PPE supply).

Overall seems to be a willingness to highlight some negatives, but I feel it does have a positive spin.
I'll be nice and assume it feels like that because we did well relatively well thanks to mostly good management/decisions and our fortunate geography, so we deserve to feel positive.


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  #2581534 8-Oct-2020 17:33
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ezbee:

Tahiti seems to be having real problems along with French Polynesia.
Hopefully there is not a movement of people around greater pacific.
Pleasure boats, Fishing and Trading?



Probably not.
French Polynesia is part of France, so people from metropolitan France brought it in on "internal" flights

If there were any controls on these "internal" flights, they were very late

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  #2581539 8-Oct-2020 17:42
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PolicyGuy:
ezbee:

Tahiti seems to be having real problems along with French Polynesia.
Hopefully there is not a movement of people around greater pacific.
Pleasure boats, Fishing and Trading?



Probably not.
French Polynesia is part of France, so people from metropolitan France brought it in on "internal" flights

If there were any controls on these "internal" flights, they were very late

The joys of colonialism


I think you will find, with a little bit of research, that French Polynesia was in fact closed even to your "internal " flights. It was the decision to open up, including those initial flights from France, that has caused the problem.

Nothing to do with colonialism.

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  #2581547 8-Oct-2020 18:05
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Three flights a week from Los Angeles to Tahiti was just nuts.




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  #2582119 9-Oct-2020 20:32
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From what I observed, hardly anyone using the Covid app today in stores, and none writing their name down on the list at the front doors of shops. Testing has dropped, and not up to Australia testing in states. We don't know what percentage of tests in NZ are in the community vs at the border.

 

It feels  like complacency is starting to occur again. I wonder how long before we get another local case popping up, potentially leading to another lockdown. Level 1 does leave us very vulnerable. IMO we shoudl be requiring businesses make sure people are recorded, as contact tracing is key to preventing that occurring.  I also see NSW have some local cases popup in the last day. 


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