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  #2582122 9-Oct-2020 20:48
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We don't even have lists. QR codes everywhere (probably to avoid penalties) but only one list out of eight places I visited.

 

 





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  #2582128 9-Oct-2020 21:22
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Seems more was going on we were very lucky the Auckland outbreak did not turn into South Korea like disaster.

 

Security guards parked vehicles over churchgoers' driveway
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-security-guards-parked-vehicles-over-churchgoers-driveway/7J4I2EZQAP57GVT3GHPNJRMBRY/

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During this period, no one living at the address was able to leave or enter after locals say a resident repeatedly breached public health orders to stay at home and self-isolate for 14 days.
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Neighbours claimed a family living at the New Windsor house linked to the church had not only attended prayer meetings when it was illegal to do so but had also met up with others in an infectious outbreak known as the west Auckland bereavement cluster.
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Health authorities were further hampered after churchgoers refused to disclose cases of illness as well as continuing to meet together when they were meant to be in self-isolation.
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Evangelicals, oh my.


 
 
 
 


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  #2582131 9-Oct-2020 21:29
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Health Minister said they managed to convince the said local evangelical church about the reality of covid and that they were largely compliant - eventually. as opposed to said South Korea cult who still do not have buy and are engaging in mass protests. 

 

I think there is a slight difference.

 

Also the positions they take are not isolated to religion - i don't believe the mass protests in Australia (there is a subset who believe Covid is created so the govt can control them - read the comments on skynews australia) are religious based.

 

So i don't think this is a religious thing - just like half the world don't want to take the vaccine, that half of the world don't believe Covid is real. If you let that half infiltrate here it's not necessarily going to be religious groups.





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  #2582177 10-Oct-2020 08:10
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Batman:

 

So i don't think this is a religious thing - just like half the world don't want to take the vaccine, that half of the world don't believe Covid is real. If you let that half infiltrate here it's not necessarily going to be religious groups.

 

 

Religions & cults = much the same thing.

 

 


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  #2582180 10-Oct-2020 08:21
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Stuff today

 

The World Health Organisation has announced a new daily record high in coronavirus cases confirmed worldwide, with more than 350, 000 infections reported to the UN health agency on Friday.

 

The new daily high of 350,766 cases surpasses a record set earlier this week by nearly 12,000. That tally includes more than 109,000 cases from Europe alone.

 

 

 

Going ok here in NZ


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  #2582198 10-Oct-2020 09:53
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not sure if I'm reading right - coronavirus destroys a lot of minks

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/09/us/mink-covid-outbreak-trnd/index.html

 

 





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  #2582202 10-Oct-2020 10:16
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"Hard Data on Remdesivir, and on Hydroxychlorquine"

 

 

So remdesivir is indeed a worthwhile drug, especially when given to people in higher-risk patient groups. This confirms the preliminary reports, and (to be honest) is somewhat better than some of the early reads. Not everything gets worse when you look at it closely! But you have to look at it closely and rigorously – there is no substitute and there are no shortcuts.

 

I’m not in a mood to be subtle. Hydroxychloroquine treatment for coronavirus does not work. It is not beneficial, and in fact appears to be actively harmful. As far as I’m concerned, administering it to infected patients now constitutes medical malpractice. I have no interest in goalpost-moving efforts to say that they didn’t administer zinc or azithromycin, or they picked the wrong patients or the wrong loading dose or whatever. No. This is special pleading, and it is not backed up by any hard data. None of the countries or regions where HCQ was enthusiastically adopted, with or without the addition of zinc, azithromycin or what have you have seen discernable benefits. It. Does. Not. Work. Give it up.

 





 

 

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  #2582204 10-Oct-2020 10:23
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Mink and Covid going back a few months this was discovered in Europe too.

 

A million mink culled in Netherlands and Spain amid Covid-19 fur farming havoc
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/17/spain-to-cull-nearly-100000-mink-in-coronavirus-outbreak

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Agriculture minister says origins of outbreak unclear after seven farm workers – and 87% of the mink – test positive
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Fur farms can potentially act as “reservoirs for coronaviruses, incubating pathogens transmissible to humans” and are “inherently cruel”, HSI Europe’s public affairs director, Joanna Swabe, said.
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A mink may have infected a human with Covid-19, Dutch authorities believe
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/20/europe/coronavirus-mink-netherlands-testing-intl/index.html

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On the basis of new research results from the ongoing research into Covid-19 infections at mink farms, it is plausible that an infection took place from mink to human," the Dutch government said in a statement late Tuesday night.
"It also appears from this research that minks can have Covid-19 without displaying symptoms."
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The government also said it believes cats may be playing a role in the spread of the virus between farms. "Ongoing research shows the viruses at two of the infected farms are very similar," the statement said. Covid-19 was found in three out of 11 cats at one mink farm, it said.
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Their relatives ferrets are being used as animal SARS-Cov2 models in Australian research.


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  #2582315 10-Oct-2020 14:05
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freitasm:

 

"Hard Data on Remdesivir, and on Hydroxychlorquine"

 

 

There's another similar drug made by Gilead - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GS-441524

 

[The public health advocacy group, Public Citizen, in an open letter urged the DHHS and Gilead to investigate GS-441524 for the treatment of COVID-19, suggesting that GILEAD was not doing so for financial motives related to the longer intellectual property lifespan of Remdesivir.

 

Simpler to make, possibly as effective or more effective, possibly effective in oral form (Remdesivir is an infusion - so then you're not likely to get it until or unless you are really sick and hospitalised - or if you're a VIP).  But hey - Gilead can make money from Remdesivir until 2037, but the patent for GS-441524 expires in 9 years.

 

I just hope an effective cheap vaccine severely limits the profit potential from "treatments". 


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  #2582333 10-Oct-2020 15:58
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The situation isn't looking good in NSW and there is talk about another lockdown being needed, at least in parts. They don't want to delay these things and become another Victoria. It doesn't take long for a few cases to rocket up. Glad that our policy has been elimination.

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  #2582339 10-Oct-2020 16:43
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Press release:

 

 

Two cases being reported today arrived from South Africa, via Dubai, on 29 September. The two people have been in managed isolation in the Sudima in Rotorua and have returned a positive test result following an additional test due to previously identified cases on their arrival flight.  

 

They are both now being transferred to the Auckland quarantine facility. 

 

The other two cases being reported today arrived from Iran, via Dubai, on 5 October. The two people have been in managed isolation in the Rydges in Rotorua and have returned a positive test result from routine testing around day 3 of their managed isolation.  They are both now also being transferred to the Auckland quarantine facility

 

Our total number of confirmed cases of COVID-19 is 1,514, which is the number we report to the World Health Organization.

 

One person is reported today as recovered.  Our total number of active cases is now 44 – all imported cases. There are no active community cases of COVID-19.

 

No one is in hospital with COVID-19 today. 

 

Yesterday our laboratories processed 4,814 tests, bringing the total number of tests completed to date to 996,955. 

 





 

 

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  #2582439 10-Oct-2020 20:07
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Looking like a case of 'ding ding round 2/3' in the last 72 hrs

 

New York - spike (businesses told to close)

 

Spain - spike, state of emergency to override a lockdown being quashed

 

UK - Local lockdowns re-instated due spikes

 

Paris - lined up for more restrictions with a 20,000 spike

 

 

 

[Mod edit (MF): removed religious commentary]


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  #2582440 10-Oct-2020 20:18
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Sweden too doesn't look good. UK looks like it is heading for disaster. Apparently local lockdowns or restrictions to be announced on Monday. I think the cooler temperatures heading into winter could be bad news for Europe. Luckily

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  #2582754 11-Oct-2020 21:29
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Oblivian:

 

Well, that's one way to spark the rest of the nation to throw in the towel next time around.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-world-health-organisation-backflips-on-virus-stance-by-condemning-lockdowns/DQMBCUNNRCHCBLCITIMKOYXLRU/ 

 

 

I thought I saw on the news the Scottish WHO doctor saying countries are opening up too fast





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