Fred99: 7 day rolling average in new cases in US has spiked 35% according to NYT. The red states are about to get a nasty wake-up call.

Give it a couple more days.

4th July went off

It looks like Covid is winning globally. Many countries are failing. Is that due to slackness or Delta? I just get the feeling the "economy first" overseas is now biting hard, followed by Covid fatigue. Here, we don't have Covid fatigue just slackness, but with no Covid to fight, slackness isn't so much a penalty.  

Tokyo: 920. On the up

Olympics in 2weeks. Poss refunding all tickets and going no spectator. 

That's going to be as economically shattering as cancelling.

Handle9:

 

Yip but it's very tricky.

 

The consent of the governed is a major problem now. Covid fatigue is a big issue in Europe. There is a very limited appetite for lockdowns and significant restrictions, which most governments are struggling with.

 

The US is a different case with their own weird value set.

 

For some unknown reason I have TB antibodies though I have never had TB. Several years ago I was flagged as a casual contact of someone who did have TB. Europeans get very panicky about this, almost the same as smallpox. When my scratch test came up positive, I was literally (no exaggeration) abducted from my home by a couple of burly ambulance attendants who burst in and wouldn't take no for an answer. I insisted on being allowed to get dressed, which they reluctantly agreed to, urging me to hurry. I was then bundled away and shut up in a hospital isolation ward. After two days the doctors finally accepted that I did not have TB and unceremoniously dumped me on the street. Non-cooperation was not an option. Treatment for communicable diseases most certainly can be forced on people against their will. There is nothing unethical about it at all. Some things were learned form Typhoid Mary.

Fred99:

38 new cases in Sydney overnight.

26 linked. 11 cases infectious in the community.

Geographical distribution is continuing to spread.

"When they find a case, all household members are found to be infected".

40 in hospital, 11 in ICU, 3 on ventilators.  Cases in ICU include several below the age of 50.

 

Rikkitic:

 

Handle9:

 

Yip but it's very tricky.

 

The consent of the governed is a major problem now. Covid fatigue is a big issue in Europe. There is a very limited appetite for lockdowns and significant restrictions, which most governments are struggling with.

 

The US is a different case with their own weird value set.

 

 

For some unknown reason I have TB antibodies though I have never had TB. Several years ago I was flagged as a casual contact of someone who did have TB. Europeans get very panicky about this, almost the same as smallpox. When my scratch test came up positive, I was literally (no exaggeration) abducted from my home by a couple of burly ambulance attendants who burst in and wouldn't take no for an answer. I insisted on being allowed to get dressed, which they reluctantly agreed to, urging me to hurry. I was then bundled away and shut up in a hospital isolation ward. After two days the doctors finally accepted that I did not have TB and unceremoniously dumped me on the street. Non-cooperation was not an option. Treatment for communicable diseases most certainly can be forced on people against their will. There is nothing unethical about it at all. Some things were learned form Typhoid Mary.

 

  

 

Did you undergo medical treatment or were you isolated? They are different.

Handle9:

 

Did you undergo medical treatment or were you isolated? They are different.

 

I underwent diagnostic medical treatment. If that had turned up TB, further treatment would have been compulsory. Some things you have a choice on. Not this one.

Rikkitic:

 

Handle9:

 

Did you undergo medical treatment or were you isolated? They are different.

 

 

I underwent diagnostic medical treatment. If that had turned up TB, further treatment would have been compulsory. Some things you have a choice on. Not this one.

 

Every EU reference I can see refers to mandatory isolation for TB, not mandatory treatment. It may have been misrepresented to you or you it may just you being a sensible person who complies with logical instructions.

@duckDecoy:

 

I might be misreading this, but if not it appears concerning.  It is trying to investigate if the vaccine is safe to give to pregnant women.   Its all over GAB and Parlor etc which is normally an immediate bollocks warning sign, so perhaps someone can point out where its going wrong.

 

The thrust of the complaints I am seeing is shouldn't they have removed these 700 from the 827, seeing as 20 weeks is before the 3rd trimester. ??   ie we only had 127 vaccinated women who could have had the vaccine up to or before 20 weeks.    And 104/127 = ~82% , not a good figure

 

The first line of the study says "Preliminary findings did not show obvious safety signals among pregnant persons who received mRNA Covid-19 vaccines"

But then you sourced "expert commentary" from Parler and GAB, two nests of crazies alt-right nazi people?

Sorry, this has no credibility at all. As per policy, no conspiracy theories allowed here so your account will be blocked from this thread.

something about border workers will need to be vaccinated in the future

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/covid-19-coronavirus-plugging-the-gap-at-the-border-in-a-few-months/VPVBK6M3QTCB6YFRBYI7PY2S5U/

Oblivian:

 

Tokyo: 920. On the up

 

Olympics in 2weeks. Poss refunding all tickets and going no spectator. 

 

That's going to be as economically shattering as cancelling.

 

no fans

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/300353155/tokyo-olympics-will-be-held-without-spectators-under-a-state-of-emergency

people in Fiji can't get food. i'm sure someone's bank account absorbed all the money NZ donated

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-detail/300353117/the-detail-what-life-is-like-in-fiji-as-covid19-runs-rampant

Stu: So with these "BLE beacons", what are the chances of being tagged to a store with a beacon just by walking past the front of said store? That could get rather frustrating when you have to decipher which places you visited and which places you were only near or walked past.

The technology was trialed by Paperkite with their Rippl app and it's my understanding it worked pretty well - but with app standardisation to the NZ Covid app this basically went nowhere.

https://paperkite.co.nz/blog/2020/11/ministry-of-health-partnership-encourages-paperkite-to-experiment-with-automated-check-ins/

Batman:

 

Oblivian:

 

Tokyo: 920. On the up

 

Olympics in 2weeks. Poss refunding all tickets and going no spectator. 

 

That's going to be as economically shattering as cancelling.

 

 

no fans

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/300353155/tokyo-olympics-will-be-held-without-spectators-under-a-state-of-emergency

 

 

 

Im not wasting my air time watching it. When too many top athletes arent going due to risk or because it should not be on, its hardly a celebration of competition of the worlds best.