2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2767472 27-Aug-2021 11:03

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mattwnz:

What was said dated very quickly. Someone should play this back to him for his comment

I don't know if Hosking is either capable of or interested in maintaining a consistent line on Covid or any other topic, as that's not the point (I'd imagine it's a common affliction amongst shock jocks: the job is more about contrariness and manufacturing controversy). Covering his inability to do so has become a staple of RNZ's Media Watch; while I've not been able to find some of the programme's more recent coverage, this one from last year is a classic:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018741210/mike-hosking-s-many-contradictory-takes-on-covid-19

He is a bed follow of Alan Jones who is a semi retired broadcaster in Sydney. They are both just egotistical dicks who like the sound of their own voice.

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#2767486 27-Aug-2021 11:26

jonathan18:

Covering his inability to do so has become a staple of RNZ's Media Watch;

I'd place both of them at opposite ends of the same scale. I trust one about as much as I trust the other.

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#2767487 27-Aug-2021 11:26

jonathan18:

mattwnz:

What was said dated very quickly. Someone should play this back to him for his comment

I don't know if Hosking is either capable of or interested in maintaining a consistent line on Covid or any other topic, as that's not the point (I'd imagine it's a common affliction amongst shock jocks: the job is more about contrariness and manufacturing controversy). Covering his inability to do so has become a staple of RNZ's Media Watch; while I've not been able to find some of the programme's more recent coverage, this one from last year is a classic:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018741210/mike-hosking-s-many-contradictory-takes-on-covid-19

Its pretty much similar to the logical contortions that the daily show highlighted on Fox a few weeks ago

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#2767495 27-Aug-2021 11:50

From the Commerce Commission:

The Commerce Commission is reminding all businesses supplying essential services in the current nationwide COVID-19 lockdown of their obligations under the Commerce Act.

The Commission recognises that the impact of the COVID-19 outbreak is significant for businesses, consumers and the economy, and that some businesses able to operate under level 4 restrictions may need to cooperate to ensure New Zealanders continue to be supplied with essential goods and services, for example, to share staff or distribution networks or take other measures to ensure security of supply.

However, they also need to be aware of what they can and cannot do when talking to their competitors. The Commerce Act prohibits anti-competitive agreements between firms such as agreements to fix prices, allocate markets or restrict output.

The Commission will not tolerate unscrupulous businesses using COVID-19 as an opportunity for non-essential collusion between competitors or anti-competitive behaviour. This includes competitors agreeing on pricing/pricing intentions, allocating markets or its customers or restricting the output of goods or services where it is not necessary in the current situation. For example, competing tradespeople should not agree the prices they will each charge for the provision of essential repair services during a lockdown.

The Commission is committed to taking enforcement action to prevent consumer harm and can take action to stop such conduct or seek appropriate penalties when identified. Cartel conduct is punishable with a term of imprisonment of up to 7 years and penalties for businesses involved.

Businesses or individuals wishing to report cartel conduct should contact the Commission as soon as possible. The Commission can grant leniency to the first member of a cartel to approach it, provided they meet the requirements for leniency. More details on the leniency policy can be found on our website. Businesses and individuals can also use the Commission’s anonymous whistleblower tool.

Further guidance on business collaborations under COVID-19 can also be found on our website.

The Commission advises all businesses providing essential services to engage with our guidance to ensure they stay on the right side of the law.

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#2767497 27-Aug-2021 11:55

Was on tv last night that people have caught supermarkets out.

People taking photos of supermarket packed items with packed date of day before announcement vs after.

One example was small quantity flour from bakery. Around 1.30/kj before. 2.70 after.

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#2767502 27-Aug-2021 12:00

Holding large scale events during Covid does not seem to be that simple.
Actually UK is going up again as a whole, USA and Fiji are now running similar levels of cases per million.

Newquay now England's Covid capital after crowds of 50,000 at festival
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/newquay-now-england-s-covid-capital-after-crowds-of-50-000-at-festival/ar-AANvGFS

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Newquay has become the country's Covid capital following a major music festival attended by 50,000 people.

Latest data shows the Cornish town was recording up to 1,100 cases per 100,000 people in the week ending August 14 — nearly quadruple the average in England.

The five-day Boardmasters Festival ran from August 11 to 15, which means the full impact of the event on transmission won't be felt until later this week.
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'No complaints as I knew the risks, however, means either lat-flows aren't reliable for such events, or Covid-positive people faked negative results. A lot to learn here for gov/event organisers.'

Another attendee said: 'Went to Boardmasters and got Covid, everyone I know has it too. Not fun, hope everyone else with it recovers soon.'

A third tweeted: '100 per cent of the people we know who attended Boardmasters have come home and tested positive for Covid. Not even from the same groups of friends.'
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#2767523 27-Aug-2021 12:34

Oblivian: Was on tv last night that people have caught supermarkets out.

People taking photos of supermarket packed items with packed date of day before announcement vs after.

One example was small quantity flour from bakery. Around 1.30/kj before. 2.70 after.

"Since the story went to air Foodstuffs contacted Newshub and said the bakers worked out the wrong price per kilo and last week customers were actually buying flour at a price below what it was costing the store to buy it.

Once the store realised they corrected the price."

Was it before the lockdown? Why would a supermarket be locally bagging flour unless there was already a shortage?

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#2767526 27-Aug-2021 12:43

Bung: "Since the story went to air Foodstuffs contacted Newshub and said the bakers worked out the wrong price per kilo and last week customers were actually buying flour at a price below what it was costing the store to buy it.

Once the store realised they corrected the price."

Was it before the lockdown? Why would a supermarket be locally bagging flour unless there was already a shortage?

Heh. They're still encouraging snapping before/after however.

Yeah packed date of 16 or 17.

Was in a salad pottle. Tiny amount. Turns out it seems if you ask nice enough you can get it at bulk pricing while the self help bulk bins are sectioned off from use during 4.

Some other chap on benefit claimed his standard budgeted weekly was more. And kittle litter had gone up 50c for example. I could imagine if bulk sourced items were harder to get they may be raised to change demand.

Economics 101

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#2767528 27-Aug-2021 12:45

Bung:
Oblivian: Was on tv last night that people have caught supermarkets out.

People taking photos of supermarket packed items with packed date of day before announcement vs after.

One example was small quantity flour from bakery. Around 1.30/kj before. 2.70 after.

"Since the story went to air Foodstuffs contacted Newshub and said the bakers worked out the wrong price per kilo and last week customers were actually buying flour at a price below what it was costing the store to buy it.

Once the store realised they corrected the price."

Was it before the lockdown? Why would a supermarket be locally bagging flour unless there was already a shortage?

where's that big Tui ad ...

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#2767529 27-Aug-2021 12:47

caught out by clickbait again. "a large number" of cases expected to be announced at 1pm ...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-delta-outbreak-health-officials-reveal-latest-covid-case-numbers-as-jacinda-ardern-mulls-alert-levels/COB4RSCR3OV5QA4H6RP5SOGCKY/

though this has numbers https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/live-updates-total-new-cases-close-70-jacinda-ardern-mulls-alert-levels

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#2767536 27-Aug-2021 12:56

Batman:
caught out by clickbait again. "a large number" of cases expected to be announced at 1pm ...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-delta-outbreak-health-officials-reveal-latest-covid-case-numbers-as-jacinda-ardern-mulls-alert-levels/COB4RSCR3OV5QA4H6RP5SOGCKY/

though this has numbers https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/live-updates-total-new-cases-close-70-jacinda-ardern-mulls-alert-levels

MoH / DPMC must have found / plugged their leak - Herald was reporting accurate numbers well before 1300 a few days ago - now they're just plucking like everybody else.

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#2767537 27-Aug-2021 12:58

They're getting as bad ad NSW trying to guess the right number and be most accurate before it's even out.

Sigh

Those of us jabbed. Be prepared for a txt message (that many will report as spam no doubt)

https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/ministry-health-launches-mobile-based-vaccine-monitoring-survey

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#2767538 27-Aug-2021 13:01

Batman:

caught out by clickbait again. "a large number" of cases expected to be announced at 1pm ...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-delta-outbreak-health-officials-reveal-latest-covid-case-numbers-as-jacinda-ardern-mulls-alert-levels/COB4RSCR3OV5QA4H6RP5SOGCKY/

though this has numbers https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/live-updates-total-new-cases-close-70-jacinda-ardern-mulls-alert-levels

70 is apparently the whole banana inc arriving MIQ cases, which is only 2 more than yesterday.. What would be really useful to know is the number of these that were household bubbles and already isolated

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#2767539 27-Aug-2021 13:02

NSW: 882
Deaths: 2

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#2767542 27-Aug-2021 13:10

Oblivian: NSW: 882
Deaths: 2

There are currently 767 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospital, with 117 people in intensive care, 47 of whom require ventilation.

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