rugrat:People without glasses are complaining as well, where they have to breathe heavily.

 

I haven’t tried the nose clip idea mentioned earlier in thread as don’t have 3D printer, if they’re that good why are they not in shops.

 

I’m disappointed that it looks like mask wearing will remain even when hit vaccinated targets. Short term wearing like shopping in heated areas and not doing anything strenuous is fine.

 

I hear ya. Which type of respirator mask have they given you for work, or are you self employed?

I hear ya again, I have mentioned the caveat a few times IMO for essential work where people are autonomous and is labour intensive. ie work alone or have an adequate xyz air volume per person to near eliminate the risk. 

Its a hard one, they know the majority of droplets will hit the deck and die at about 2m (which to be safe and to stop people pushing the rules it should be 3m), but they also know aersosols can travel a lot further depending on the environment (a fair debate on how far a contagious aerosol can travel I think?). In saying that, by the time they get to (for the sake of it) 27ft as per one of Dr M Hansens videos, the expectation seems they should die by rule (share lack of size, UV etc)

RE Masks here after Vaxx, sorry, IMO no doubt they are here to stay, probably at least until all countries have been vaxxed, ie Africa, according to Moderna there will be enough Vax for all humans by mid next year, so the light is there, we can see it, we just got to get through the next year or so. Which is why imo the Govt may hold off opening non domestic borders. They will want to see the local impact to ICU before opening to vaxxd countries, of which they may only choose to partner with countries of which vaxx they feel safe, too early to know that yet. Anyway the reasons is many fold, including the lowering of full immunity of xyz vax and the ability with even a lowered full immunity of Vaxx + a mask to reduce the total viral load of such a scenario so a break through case should have minimal impact. At least that is my understanding of it, based on multiple sources. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

If a persons glasses are fogging up, the mask is spewing aerosol upward. Sorry you may have meant something else. But if it is a covid mask, fit is everything. Will post a video in a bit that puts masks under the microscope to look at the micron level, some are way better than others, ie a workmans sun cloth across the face has very low protection vs a non surigical N95 designed to be able to adapt to a persons face shape. Can link to a video on that if helpful.

Id be looking at Zdogg and Dr Ghandi's videos for layman stuff, imo they are brilliant at dispelling misinformation and spreading layman based science.

Masks May Do More Than We Think (w/Dr. Monica Gandhi) - YouTube

The End Of The Pandemic (w/Dr. Monica Gandhi) - YouTube

Those 2 are rather old but considering what we know now should have been hammered into the public. But there have been several population and purely scientific studies done since, which show the efficacy of masks including the Stanford/Bangladesh study Surgical masks reduce COVID-19 spread, large-scale study shows | News Center | Stanford Medicine (note, we can do better personally with better fit non surgical n95 than generic surgical masks imo, like scuba diving, fit of mask is the be all)

IMO its fairly obvious with or without Vax, masks should have been MUCH further promoted by the Govt when in any scenario when crossing paths with other humans, ie sidewalk. I would say at a guess, with sidewalks being full with everybody home an exercising, I see maybe 1/20 people wearing masks, they tend to be elderly.

Here is another recent video with Dr Ghandi on Zdogg, where the talk immunity, either via Vax or naturally, masks make that naturally bit both in terms of no vaxx or waning vaxx efficacy, critically import, IMO

Immunity Is The Only Way Through A Pandemic (w/Dr. Monica Gandhi) - YouTube