... UK is worse at around 65% we are so much better and we never had the cases that both countries had before leaving Lockdown, dont compare NZ to most European countries or even the USA
Simple comparisons like that are not particularly meaningful, especially for a claim that "we are so much better".
In England, vaccination has not been recommended for teens under 19 (at least until very recently?). Consequently only 1%-2% of under-18's have been double vaccinated. Does somewhat impact the 12+ average.
Regardless of the above, while the overall 'first dose+" UK vaccination rate is a bit lower than NZ, the percentage double dosed is marginally higher than in NZ.
Plus of course ~19% in the UK have now had booster shots
1st Dose+ 2nd Dose+ Booster
NZ 89.7% 79.3% 0.0%
UK 87.5% 79.8% 19.0%
Figures in both cases = % of people over 12, as at 9 Nov 2021.
i was more pointing out the fact that the UK had relaxed most restrictions when they were at 65% fully vaccinated , NZ are not doing that so it was wrong to look at the UK and saying what happened in the UK or Germany could or will happen here.