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  #2822135 30-Nov-2021 21:29
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On the vaccinations side, first dose numbers are still holding up above 6,000 a day. Which is great.

 

 

I guess thats the human element, governed by carrots. But who cares, if many more are jumping onto the train. While "for some" its inconceivable that we are doing well, we are. I was talking to someone from Waiheke Island today, she said its ok, she appreciated the response but its hard. yes, I agreed, its like the Govt/MoH asking who is angry and who is less angry. The bottom line is that there is no happy vs angry result. Its the lesser of two evils. Businesses can do stuff soon, populous can get out and about, its moving forward. And for a prominent and affected poster here, no thats not ideal, but there seems little choice. I hope he knows I am referring to him. And caring.

 

 

I imagine it is largely the sticks now. Anybody who works in a workplace that can operate more freely if they opt to use vaccine certificates's (+Police & Military), need to have their first dose by Friday to keep working uninterrupted. Estimates have those mandates (plus the ones already introduced) covering 40% of workers in NZ, so it's a pritty big stick.

 

And also the approach vaccine pass system will be motivating some. I'm willing to cut my own hair, but many arn't... and unless you turn to the black market for your hair cuts, if you don't have a vaccine pass, you are in for a long, long wait.

 

Carrots have been around a while now, and don't seem to be significantly changing in size. That said, I heard that a far north pack n save did a record week when sizeable vouchers for their store were used as a vaccine incentive.

 

 

 

I imagine a significant factor is that with 92% of the eligible population vaccinated, there are decent odds that each un vaccinated person knows of a handful that are vaccinated, and are not only still alive, but also willing to talk about side effects etc.

 

And of course there are many people doing tireless outreach work week after week.


 
 
 
 

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  #2822139 30-Nov-2021 21:33
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This article reinforces my thoughts on why rural New Zealand lags behind in the the vaccination stats.

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/manawatu-top-stories/300465976/urbanrural-divide-realised-in-vaccination-numbers-says-federated-farmers 

 

  • Isolation

     

    • Lack of ready access to a local vaccination centre.
    • Lack of incentive as the virus isn't close by.

The vaccination roll out wasn't designed by people who relate to the lifestyle in the rural areas. There is no public transport and a lot of rural people go to town only once or twice a month or even less in some cases and if those days don't align with a vaccination centre being open then they don't get the chance to get vaccinated until the next time they're in town.

 

 

I get that, and I supported your post. BUTTTT is getting a jab any different from getting gas, weedkiller, groceries? Sorry, but if I was rural, and I have been, time it for everything so you can get everything.These days I dont feel there is an excuse. Like "hesitant" if any are hesitant now, they are anti vaxxers.

 

 

Yes, I agree those trips could be arranged to align with the vaccination clinic, but it still takes a lot more co-ordination/effort than for those of us who live in an urban area. 

 

Also, what about when the town where you go for your groceries, weedkiller etc doesn't have a vaccination centre? I know of examples like this.

 

They're all just little speed bumps on the road to vaccination.





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  #2822170 30-Nov-2021 23:17
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An Antivaxx Nurse friend of mine finally caved and got her first Jab yesterday. Paying the mortgage won out. Anyway she rang me to ask about side effects and to rant. I assured her that ranting worsens with the second shot.....she did laugh.

 

Speaking of laughs.

 

I have to drive up to Auckland for Xmas. Stay a week or so, then return South of the Bombays.

 

I thought up an idea to film and post on Tictok as I drive past the Police check points. I was thinking I should wear a home made Hazmat suit, can you picture it?

 

I am pretty sure I will get stopped....so for the sake of production value...I could shout "Are you one of the nine hundred unvaccinated cops???"

 

"Don't come to close I am immun  immu immuno c...I have bad immunity....I don't wanna die".

 

 





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  #2822173 30-Nov-2021 23:21
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I've just seen a Facebook post from one our local country pubs saying that they will be closed from the 3rd until further notice as they don't believe in the mandates and the two classes that the government has created.

 

 

Do they also sell alcohol to children because they don't believe in the mandates and the two classes that the government has created?

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  #2822196 1-Dec-2021 07:54
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Covid: Greece to fine over-60s who refuse Covid-19 vaccine - BBC News

 

 

Fines of €100 (£85) will be imposed at monthly intervals from mid-January on those who refuse, Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said.

 

The money will go towards the Greek health system, which is struggling with a surge in hospital admissions.

 

About 63% of Greece's 11-million population is fully vaccinated, but data show more than 520,000 people over 60 are yet to get the jab.

 





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  #2822250 1-Dec-2021 08:08
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Grifters are gonna grift. Fake passes and Bitcoin! The best of scams.

 

"Vaccine passes are being offered for sale on a social media platform for $10, with transactions being done in bitcoin currency."

 

 





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  #2822269 1-Dec-2021 08:52
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Sup:

 

An Antivaxx Nurse friend of mine finally caved and got her first Jab yesterday. Paying the mortgage won out. Anyway she rang me to ask about side effects and to rant. I assured her that ranting worsens with the second shot.....she did laugh.

 

Speaking of laughs.

 

I have to drive up to Auckland for Xmas. Stay a week or so, then return South of the Bombays.

 

I thought up an idea to film and post on Tictok as I drive past the Police check points. I was thinking I should wear a home made Hazmat suit, can you picture it?

 

I am pretty sure I will get stopped....so for the sake of production value...I could shout "Are you one of the nine hundred unvaccinated cops???"

 

"Don't come to close I am immun  immu immuno c...I have bad immunity....I don't wanna die".

 

 

 

 

Good news about the nurse.

 

I'm not sure the dressing up and filming is going to go down well. The police on the border are very good to deal with in my experience. They might see the funny side but then they're probably over doing border patrol too.





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  #2822287 1-Dec-2021 09:19
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freitasm:

 

Grifters are gonna grift. Fake passes and Bitcoin! The best of scams.

 

"Vaccine passes are being offered for sale on a social media platform for $10, with transactions being done in bitcoin currency."

 

 

 

 

Can't wait to see what happens when someone tries to use one of these fake things. "But they told me it was real!" :D

 

Yes, they probably told you it was "just a little flu" as well.


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  #2822289 1-Dec-2021 09:22
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Can't wait to see what happens when someone tries to use one of these fake things. "But they told me it was real!" :D

 

Yes, they probably told you it was "just a little flu" as well.

 

 

Pretty sure the purchaser will scan it straight after purchase to test it... The scanning app is pretty easy to find 


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  #2822304 1-Dec-2021 09:40
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quickymart:

 

Can't wait to see what happens when someone tries to use one of these fake things. "But they told me it was real!" :D

 

Yes, they probably told you it was "just a little flu" as well.

 

 

Pretty sure the purchaser will scan it straight after purchase to test it... The scanning app is pretty easy to find 

 

 

Pretty sure @quickymart was referring to someone actually checking ID and pointing out the pass was issued to someone else.





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It makes you wonder what kind of boss they would be to work for.
What other regulations might go by the wayside because they don't like them.

 

Lone Star New Lynn ignores vaccine mandate, invites unvaccinated to apply for work
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-delta-outbreak-lone-star-new-lynn-ignores-vaccine-mandate-invites-unvaccinated-to-apply-for-work/HWVXEZGEAJGEV6HGH3QAZG3T6M/

 

 


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  #2822332 1-Dec-2021 10:12
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It makes you wonder what kind of boss they would be to work for.
What other regulations might go by the wayside because they don't like them.

 

Lone Star New Lynn ignores vaccine mandate, invites unvaccinated to apply for work
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-delta-outbreak-lone-star-new-lynn-ignores-vaccine-mandate-invites-unvaccinated-to-apply-for-work/HWVXEZGEAJGEV6HGH3QAZG3T6M/

 

 

 

 

Yep, and would then probably complain loudly to the media when he gets the $12k fine.

 

 

 

Who am I kidding? Fines - I'd be very surprised if anyone gets fined. We're not Australia, we're 'kind'.


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