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  #2842484 3-Jan-2022 15:35
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frankv:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My interpretation is that there's a large pool of near-asymptomatic covid cases in NSW (as stated in the article), so that when a random person has an accident there's a small but significant chance that they will also be covid-positive.

 

A family in NSW I'm related to has covid in their household. They are isolating at home, as directed by the authorities. They told us that they were told to *not* come into hospital unless they were really sick (i.e. needing oxygen). So all the NSW patients that are being admitted *because* of covid are really sick, but there's relatively few of them. And there's a large number with covid (maybe unknown, maybe not) at home, breaking hips and having heart attacks and consequently going to hospital. In this context, "üp to half went in for something different" isn't surprising at all.

 

I expect that the hospitals would record the admission reason for every admission; that's a *very* standard thing to record. So it's a bit surprising that they are reporting counts of covid-positive patients. But I wouldn't be surprised if that was what they were asked to report by whoever in the State government was doing the press releases. Conversely, the "üp to half" is vague and pretty much meaningless, and suggests that the reporter hasn't bothered to ask the right question.

 

I'd expect that the people doing the actual planning of management of covid in NSW would be using the correct stats, and have much better data, so wouldn't be "flying blind".

 

 

 

Agreed about the Asymptomatic spread.

 

There could be, without exaggeration, half a million cases now or certainly before weeks end if the 2.4 doubling time has been sustained.

 

That would be very good news, with positivity rates at 20% this could even be an accurate figure now across the population.

 

Again this would mean a very rapid wave that goes into rapid decline.

 

I guess our very fragile health care system and fairly unhealthy population demographic when exposed to omicron really will tell the world what happens in a virgin system.

 

The high rate of vaccines will protect all most all Kiwis,...it is that million who are not vaccinated that we have to hope only needs a bunch of beds.





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  #2842485 3-Jan-2022 15:36
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Wiles and Hendy experiencing significant harassment from covid nutjobs:

Stuff: Harassment has included targeting via email, on social media and video sharing platforms, in person confrontations and threats of physical confrontations.

Wiles has been the subject of doxing with an associated threat to physically confront her at her home while Hendy has been physically confronted in his office on campus by an individual who threatened to “see him soon”.

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  #2842486 3-Jan-2022 15:40
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gzt:

 


Dunno about that. The Waiheke Island photo was deleted. Still don't know about his activities there or transport to and from the island.

 

There was an article on Stuff which I can't find at the moment that indicated that he traveled to Waiheke in a car and stayed in it throughout including the ferry ride. While he was there he attended drinks with the neighbours who went into isolation subsequently.




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  #2842487 3-Jan-2022 15:42
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gzt: Wiles and Hendy experiencing significant harassment from covid nutjobs:

Stuff: Harassment has included targeting via email, on social media and video sharing platforms, in person confrontations and threats of physical confrontations.

Wiles has been the subject of doxing with an associated threat to physically confront her at her home while Hendy has been physically confronted in his office on campus by an individual who threatened to “see him soon”.

 

It will only get worse. These fascists attack the intelligentsia first. Anyone who uses an informed or even a concerned voice during Covid, or has an opinion that is unpleasant for others to hear is subject to bullying and silencing. It is a thing unfortunately. 

 

 





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  #2842497 3-Jan-2022 16:31
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Sup: In essence I see a big problem for Regional NZ

Indeed. The treatment at home strategy was piloted in Singapore a country with a dense urban population. In contrast regional NZ has some fairly large distances when it comes to transporting critical patients. The idle tourist helicopters could come in handy, but it's not that simple. You still need medical staff in them and most will not be configured for it. That and they'll be used to flying relatively standard routes and in daylight. Clearly we are not in that position yet, and there are some existing services, still has to be concerning.

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  #2842501 3-Jan-2022 16:47
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Sup: and the largest Polynesian city in the world

This has to be concerning. I expect there's some data available in relation to limited transmission in the city. Perhaps some parallel data is available in relation to the significant Samoan population in L.A. Add Tahiti, New Caledonia, Hawaiian indigenous population.

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  #2842577 3-Jan-2022 21:42
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gzt: Wiles and Hendy experiencing significant harassment from covid nutjobs:

Stuff: Harassment has included targeting via email, on social media and video sharing platforms, in person confrontations and threats of physical confrontations.

Wiles has been the subject of doxing with an associated threat to physically confront her at her home while Hendy has been physically confronted in his office on campus by an individual who threatened to “see him soon”.

 

These people are clearly psychologically troubled, angry, and disengaged from mainstream society. I am becoming increasingly concerned at how far the most radical among them might be willing to go.

 

I hope I'm wrong, but it's within the realms of possibility that we could see them undertake an improvised terrorist attack over the coming weeks or months. 2022 could be a very messy year. 




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  #2842598 3-Jan-2022 22:13
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gzt: Wiles and Hendy experiencing significant harassment from covid nutjobs:

Stuff: Harassment has included targeting via email, on social media and video sharing platforms, in person confrontations and threats of physical confrontations.

Wiles has been the subject of doxing with an associated threat to physically confront her at her home while Hendy has been physically confronted in his office on campus by an individual who threatened to “see him soon”.

 

These people are clearly psychologically troubled, angry, and disengaged from mainstream society. I am becoming increasingly concerned at how far the most radical among them might be willing to go.

 

I hope I'm wrong, but it's within the realms of possibility that we could see them undertake an improvised terrorist attack over the coming weeks or months. 2022 could be a very messy year. 

 

 

You can see it coming.

 

Especially with figures like Brian Tamaki saying his people no longer belong to NZ and the Jan 6 play at the Gov Generals residence demanding the dissolution of Parliament and the removal of the sitting Prime Minister. Acts of treason committed on Sovereign soil.

 

The most dangerous episode was the American far right figure who got in Aderns face and had no qualms using fake I.D. to disrupt an official Press conference.

 

Adern is the most hated woman in the world by far right extremists after Fox News told those nutbars she was interning citizens in detention camps.

 

There is a lot of online noise aimed at Adern as the next leader of the UN with a communist agenda and as head of the great reset.

 

I cannot wait till she finishes that job, she has a young daughter to raise. It is not worth it.

 

The CH CH terror attacks painted Adern as a Muslim lover, a woman who will remove your guns, and as a traitor to her race according to Neo Nazi promos of her across the Southern United States.





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  #2842602 3-Jan-2022 22:22
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Sup:

Adern is the most hated woman in the world by far right extremists after Fox News told those nutbars she was interning citizens in detention camps.


There is a lot of online noise aimed at Adern as the next leader of the UN with a communist agenda and as head of the great reset.


I cannot wait till she finishes that job, she has a young daughter to raise. It is not worth it.


The CH CH terror attacks painted Adern as a Muslim lover, a woman who will remove your guns, and as a traitor to her race according to Neo Nazi promos of her across the Southern United States.



Most of the world doesn’t know who Ardern is.

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  #2842603 3-Jan-2022 22:32
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Handle9:

Most of the world doesn’t know who Ardern is.

 

Those who do can usually spell her name.

 

 





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  #2842606 3-Jan-2022 22:36
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Rikkitic:

 

Handle9:

Most of the world doesn’t know who Ardern is.

 

Those who do can usually spell her name.

 

 

Another useful contribution from you.


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  #2842607 3-Jan-2022 22:37
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@Sup: Especially with figures like Brian Tamaki saying his people no longer belong to NZ and the Jan 6 play at the Gov Generals residence demanding the dissolution of Parliament and the removal of the sitting Prime Minister. Acts of treason committed on Sovereign soil.

I have not heard of this January 6th Tamaki thing. Do you have any citation for that?

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  #2842609 3-Jan-2022 22:45
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Handle9:

 

Another useful contribution from you.

 

 

Always glad to help!

 

 

 

 





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  #2842613 3-Jan-2022 23:04
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Concerning a certain 'Christian' promoting violence against schools vaccinating, 
and vaccination centers vaccinating children.
All done with usual parental permission

 

He may say...
Hyperbole, Just Joking, Just Words, Sticks and Stones tra la la.

 

I do believe its quite calculated as has been a growing trend.
Looking for a weak minded person at the end of the torrent of 'metaverse hate' to do their bidding. 
Giving promoters distance and deniability of sorts. 

 

Hyperbole, Just Joking etc...

 

We have heard of staff dealing with tantrums far beyond reason and police time wasted in pointless argument.

 

That's kinda how you get an untraceable lone wolf like Chch killer.
We have also  had someone narrowly miss being killed by a websites campaign against them.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/revealed-book-exposes-how-whaleoil-bloggers-campaign-spilled-from-internet-into-the-real-world-and-took-a-heavy-toll/WKTQY4WODSUMASDJNWOSGEJ4OA/

 

Sorry if that's straying from subject a bit, and any discussion on that track probably Politics, or Off Topic a better place.


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  #2842617 3-Jan-2022 23:40
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@Sup: Especially with figures like Brian Tamaki saying his people no longer belong to NZ and the Jan 6 play at the Gov Generals residence demanding the dissolution of Parliament and the removal of the sitting Prime Minister. Acts of treason committed on Sovereign soil.

I have not heard of this January 6th Tamaki thing. Do you have any citation for that?
Nah it was on the news, they waited at the gates of the Governor Generals mansion demanding the G. G. remove Adern.

 

Tamaki has been linked to Steve Bannon it is pretty clear why people doing Nazi Salutes are marching alongside Destiny Church.

 

 

 

 





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