2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2441593 19-Mar-2020 19:02

The Washington Post - GOP senator says only "small" percentage of population might die of coronavirus

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As President Trump cast the nation’s battle against the coronavirus as war, one high-ranking Republican senator seemed to play down the gravity of the pandemic, saying the number of Americans who might die would be 3.4 percent of the population at most.

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, called covid-19 a “nasty disease” that is devastating to those who contract it.

“Getting coronavirus is not a death sentence except for maybe no more than 3.4 percent of our population ... probably far less,” Johnson said in an interview with his home-state newspaper. “We don’t shut down our economy because tens of thousands of people die on the highways.”

If 3.4 percent of the U.S. population perished, that would mean millions of fatalities and would be 10 times the U.S. deaths in every war that the United States has fought. ...

Some senators are not very good at maths. 😕

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#2441594 19-Mar-2020 19:04

With the Australian announcement just now, does that mean it is still possible for NZers to get back thru transferring flights at Sydney or Melbourne, i.e. not passing thru customs?

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#2441596 19-Mar-2020 19:06

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Thanks, that's interesting. To us, half the enjoyment of a NZ holiday is going to lots of nice restaurants and cafes and getting a break from having to cook for ourselves. And of course, visiting places where there are many other tourists from both NZ and overseas.

Yes, it may be better to "wait it out" by staying home, but I guess this could go on for many months. I actually feel sorry for overseas visitors who not only have to self isolate first for 14 days, during which time NZ's confirmed cases seem to be taking off, as predicted by many on this forum. And then, they can't really enjoy their holiday because of worries about the virus and even worse, they might find it hard to get a flight home where they no doubt will also face a self-isolation period. It seems tourism is almost dead in the water, anywhere.

I agree, that's tough, but too bad. ALL of us will be affected. ALL of us. 2020 is over for all of us, at least.

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#2441599 19-Mar-2020 19:10

Sideface:

The Washington Post - GOP senator says only "small" percentage of population might die of coronavirus

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As President Trump cast the nation’s battle against the coronavirus as war, one high-ranking Republican senator seemed to play down the gravity of the pandemic, saying the number of Americans who might die would be 3.4 percent of the population at most.

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, called covid-19 a “nasty disease” that is devastating to those who contract it.

“Getting coronavirus is not a death sentence except for maybe no more than 3.4 percent of our population ... probably far less,” Johnson said in an interview with his home-state newspaper. “We don’t shut down our economy because tens of thousands of people die on the highways.”

If 3.4 percent of the U.S. population perished, that would mean millions of fatalities and would be 10 times the U.S. deaths in every war that the United States has fought. ...

Some senators are not very good at maths. 😕

he properly went to the same school as his president

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2441600 19-Mar-2020 19:12

mattwnz:

What you do, you’ve got to keep doing for the next six months,' Mr Morrison told Sky News. 'Shut them down, they won’t open again. And that means your children will miss what is effectively a whole year of their education.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8127889/Scott-Morrison-defends-decision-not-close-schools-amid-coronavirus-pandemic.html#v-2369269743675787946

They have now shut them in thee UK from friday https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51952314 . I am wondering if we are planning to do that, if it isn't better sooner, rather than later.

I am optimistic that we may get through this without a major outbreak, but it relies on everyone doing their part.

Best post all year. The Govt cant fix this, nor the Ministry of Health. From the World War 2 poster "THIS MEANS YOU"

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#2441601 19-Mar-2020 19:14

kingdragonfly:
I wouldn't want to be in prison during this https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120383374/coronavirus-real-concerns-over-covid19s-impact-on-prisons

With all the talk about marriage ceremonies, I kept thinking "what's it like in prison?"

Easy. Happy wife, happy _ _ _ _

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#2441602 19-Mar-2020 19:16

jonb: With the Australian announcement just now, does that mean it is still possible for NZers to get back thru transferring flights at Sydney or Melbourne, i.e. not passing thru customs?

I'd like to think so. Then again they have been known to remove prohibited items from baggage of those transiting (despite not touching Australian soil) without question. So who knows!

Lounges are *meant* to be considered secure deadzones not in-country. But this may also prompt airlines to cancel flights as of tonight due expecting to turn half their passengers around.

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#2441603 19-Mar-2020 19:21

Geektastic: I think anyone coming in now needs to be quarantined, not asked nicely to stay out of the way.

Agreed. The current situation where it is OK to take domestic flight's is nuts.

I think we should do self quarantine for next week (city of arrival only, no going out etc.) Enforced with twice daily checks

Then for arrivals in the follow week, step up to formal quarantine. Take over a bunch of hotels...

At some stage we need to increase the the time period from 14 days to 26 days as well.

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#2441654 19-Mar-2020 19:35

Geektastic: I think anyone coming in now needs to be quarantined, not asked nicely to stay out of the way.

Nothing can be further from the truth.

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#2441656 19-Mar-2020 19:46

tdgeek:

Im ok with it. Its contained here, IMHO As in no known CT so far

There is.

And our problem is we have a lot of people behaving like it's not.

Which makes our CT problem all the worse.

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#2441657 19-Mar-2020 19:46

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Geektastic: I think anyone coming in now needs to be quarantined, not asked nicely to stay out of the way.

Agreed. The current situation where it is OK to take domestic flight's is nuts.

I think we should do self quarantine for next week (city of arrival only, no going out etc.) Enforced with twice daily checks

Then for arrivals in the follow week, step up to formal quarantine. Take over a bunch of hotels...

This will definitely work. It's how China is doing it. Watched a YouTube video.

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#2441658 19-Mar-2020 19:48

dafman:
tdgeek:

Im ok with it. Its contained here, IMHO As in no known CT so far

There is.

And our problem is we have a lot of people behaving like it's not.

Which makes our CT problem all the worse.

Wife says sick people are working at the warehouse, and sick kids are at school. And when the Dunedin school shut these kids are loitering in town.

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#2441659 19-Mar-2020 19:49

dafman:

There is.

And our problem is we have a lot of people behaving like it's not.

Which makes our CT problem all the worse.

Please back that up outside of a facebook or blog post.

https://youtu.be/GiZxePSPAGo?t=24

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#2441662 19-Mar-2020 19:51

dafman:
tdgeek:

Im ok with it. Its contained here, IMHO As in no known CT so far

There is.

And our problem is we have a lot of people behaving like it's not.

Which makes our CT problem all the worse.

Can you give the link for the known CT?

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#2441663 19-Mar-2020 19:52

Batman:

This will definitely work. It's how China is doing it. Watched a YouTube video.

And how many criticised China over and over??

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