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  #2874763 25-Feb-2022 14:09
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Paul1977:

 

I honestly believe that because of our high vaccination rate that, even if we completely opened up and stopped all restrictions, Omicron wouldn't overwhelm the health system; but I can understand the Government wanting to watch the numbers carefully before making an extreme change like that.

 

 

St John is already overwhelmed, health workers are already burning out.
NSW & VIC each had over 2000 people in hospital at the peak & I believe at the time some restrictions were still in place. We already have 237 in hospital.


 
 
 

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  #2874766 25-Feb-2022 14:09
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Is there now any point in scanning QR codes and/or doing Contact Tracing?

 


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  #2874767 25-Feb-2022 14:10
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Middlemore Hospital is in Red Mode. Clinical care only. All non-essential everything is stopped for 4 weeks.

 

 




  #2874788 25-Feb-2022 14:33
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DjShadow:

 

Is there now any point in scanning QR codes and/or doing Contact Tracing?

 

 

i asked that pages ago and no one engaged

 

i dont believe so other than personally knowing where you have been. It was a good tool when case numbers were low and the variant was not so fast at spreading but now there is little point.

 

Jase2985:

 

Do you think scanning etc has run it course now? given contact tracing is next to non existent (self logging) and LOI's are woefully out of date?

 

With the amount of cases and the share number of LOI's, and definition of a close contact, which has changed, is there really any benefit to it? the bar for a close contact is pretty high now.

 

Thoughts?

 


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  #2874799 25-Feb-2022 14:46
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With the bluetooth functionality not working, there isn't much point. I'll still scan, its become a habit, but I don't really see much point overall now. It's moving faster than it could be tracked by 100x


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  #2874802 25-Feb-2022 14:48
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Why do you say Bluetooth isn't working? Daughter had a 'close contact' notification last week from it. Would have been helpful if there were details included of where the contact was, but notifications are going out.





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  #2874804 25-Feb-2022 14:49
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I'm boosted as of this afternoon. My arm is a bit sore for now, but at least it's done.




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  #2874807 25-Feb-2022 14:53
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Stu:

 

Why do you say Bluetooth isn't working? Daughter had a 'close contact' notification last week from it. Would have been helpful if there were details included of where the contact was, but notifications are going out.

 

 

Quite a bit mentioned in the press and from people I know saying the Bluetooth doesn't work or only works sometimes.

 

Bloomfield and Hipkins were apologising for it last week or the week before during one of the pressers.

 

 

 

 


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  #2874812 25-Feb-2022 14:59
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Many of the restrictions seem like unnecessary theatre used to symbolise control over the virus where there is none.





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  #2874814 25-Feb-2022 15:02
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Jase2985:

 

i asked that pages ago and no one engaged

 

i dont believe so other than personally knowing where you have been. It was a good tool when case numbers were low and the variant was not so fast at spreading but now there is little point.

 

 

 

 

I've addressed it about 3x now.

 

Phase 2+3 = Digital SELF contact tracing. It's ALWAYS going to go that way as a 3rd party cant keep up.

 

If you go positive, you flag yourself. You upload your diary. They use it to send this person was positive alerts.

 

We still have to trace when people have visited high risk locations like rest homes and hospitals. And alert them to the fact.

 

 


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  #2874817 25-Feb-2022 15:05
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With case numbers so high now, will be interesting to see what the public's appetite is for "life as normal" (supermarket shopping, out for dinner / drinks with friends or colleagues etc).

 

We live a fairly predictable life as it is and outside of work & sports (gym/golf), really don't spend that much time outside the house anyway. Both our leeches are at Uni and they both work at local supermarket so are our highest odds of getting it but I guess it can come from anywhere at any time.


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  #2874818 25-Feb-2022 15:06
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networkn:

 

Quite a bit mentioned in the press and from people I know saying the Bluetooth doesn't work or only works sometimes.

 

Bloomfield and Hipkins were apologising for it last week or the week before during one of the pressers.

 

 

That WAS the case. But it is now relied on as the only way to actively trace close encounters since the new phases

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/461620/omicron-phase-two-covid-19-cases-will-soon-be-doing-their-own-contact-tracing 

 

And the bit that is going to stuff us all by people not using it is outlined. It is still our responsibility to tell others at risk.

 

The next step will be uploading the Covid Tracer App diary. Anyone who does not use the app or had missing entries will be asked to add details of any high-risk places or close contacts manually.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-what-phase-3-of-response-plan-will-look-like/WPAOGFHEDULP4KJCR6UWEXLEZQ/ 

 

 


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  #2874822 25-Feb-2022 15:09
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sen8or:

 

With case numbers so high now, will be interesting to see what the public's appetite is for "life as normal" (supermarket shopping, out for dinner / drinks with friends or colleagues etc).

 

We live a fairly predictable life as it is and outside of work & sports (gym/golf), really don't spend that much time outside the house anyway. Both our leeches are at Uni and they both work at local supermarket so are our highest odds of getting it but I guess it can come from anywhere at any time.

 

 

 

 

We are retrenching now somewhat. I have dinner out tonight and tomorrow night but both only outdoor venues and off peak, but next week onward we will not be out dining unless it's outdoors only.

 

We haven't been visiting supermarkets at all for months. Home delivery except in emergencies.

 

We are fortunate that we have stocked cupboards and freezers and I know many are not that fortunate. Ultimately every person who can avoid being in crowded spaces should if possible to flatten the curve.

 

Most people who get it, it will be mild, but moderate and serious cases will not only overload hospitals dealing with covid but potentially prevent other serious conditions getting timely attention.

 

 


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  #2874824 25-Feb-2022 15:10
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On scanning, well its not a big hole in your day if you stop for a few seconds to scan.
Maybe it gives the shop worker confidence that combined with your mask you are not another shouty complaining about measures.

 

They are concentrating on high risk sites due to limited resources.
Your scanning will help remind you if you test positive to report any high risk sites in the self reporting tool.
Its good practice for that time you may visit a vulnerable site, medical, aged care, church etc.

 

Our maximum privacy model as opposed to some other countries does mean value is somewhat less.
That's apparently what we all wanted.
Bluetooth is spotty because its Bluetooth plus many don't have it turned on, but it appears some have been pinged by it. 

 

Even if you think its almost worthless along with masking, its no particular huge hassle.
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  #2874830 25-Feb-2022 15:21
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networkn:

 

Oblivian: The word for today is ouch.

With that rate it's not going to be long till you don't know someone

 

The plus side is that with such high infection rates, pretty much this will all be over pretty quickly as everyone will have had it.

 

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Not certain why people think this will "all be over pretty quickly".

 

That is not what is happening in AU.  Average daily case numbers there are dropping at snails pace (WA excepted - still on the up).  

 

We appear to be about a month behind QLD.  Average daily case numbers there have barely changed in the last two weeks.

 

NSW, VIC & QLD all exhibiting very similar trends.  At current rates of decrease in case numbers, it will be several months plus before the numbers reduce below 1000 / day in those states. 

 

In ACT, the numbers have increased over the last two weeks.

 


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