2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#3256926 6-Jul-2024 15:22

quickymart:

Odd given they were crying poor recently, yet they could still afford to do mailbox drops for this nonsense.

Maybe it was printed before they ran out of money and they needed them to go somewhere. Recycling the paper would have been a better use of it.

Looks to shiny to use as toilet paper :-)
Not the kind of paper you would want to flush either.

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#3256930 6-Jul-2024 15:49

What is going on with medsafe, why does it take 8 months to approve a vaccine already approved in multiple other countries?

https://x.com/CovidSafeNZ/status/1809043692701036726

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#3256939 6-Jul-2024 16:55

Ragnor:

What is going on with medsafe, why does it take 8 months to approve a vaccine already approved in multiple other countries?

https://x.com/CovidSafeNZ/status/1809043692701036726

Because the legislative requirements are different here. It's not just ticking a box.... not by a LONG shot.

Manufacturing validation

Purchase chain validation

Shipping chain validation

Storage requirements validation

Who can administer it, training, validation, validation of post use emergency response

etc etc etc etc, none of these things are impacted by "other countries"

And ALL this information must be made available before the decision gets made, reviewed, feed back made by "stake holders", etc etc etc.

There is no pandemic happening needing any of this to be fast tracked.

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#3257057 7-Jul-2024 08:46

I hadn't heard the pandemic has ended. Know something the WHO doesn't?

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#3257062 7-Jul-2024 09:07

Batwing: I hadn't heard the pandemic has ended. Know something the WHO doesn't?

"On 5 May 2023, the WHO declared that the pandemic was no longer a public health emergency of international concern. This led several media outlets to incorrectly report that this meant the pandemic was "over". The WHO commented to Full Fact that it was unlikely to declare the pandemic over "in the near future" and mentioned cholera, which it considers to have continued to be a pandemic since 1961. The WHO does not have an official category for pandemics or make declarations of when pandemics start or end."

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#3257064 7-Jul-2024 09:25

Right so nothing there says it ended

spacedog

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#3257831 9-Jul-2024 18:00

sir1963:

Because the legislative requirements are different here. It's not just ticking a box.... not by a LONG shot.

Manufacturing validation

Purchase chain validation

Shipping chain validation

Storage requirements validation

Who can administer it, training, validation, validation of post use emergency response

etc etc etc etc, none of these things are impacted by "other countries"

And ALL this information must be made available before the decision gets made, reviewed, feed back made by "stake holders", etc etc etc.

There is no pandemic happening needing any of this to be fast tracked.

They are continually a day late and a dollar short when it comes to keeping up with Covid as best I can tell. Right down to trying to time the new vaccine availability with the 'cold and flu' season as if this has any bearing on Covid. I can attest just having been back in the USA and caught covid in the height of summer where they are having a huge surge of KP.3 since AFTER schools got out. Covid simply is not a seasonal based bug. It's proven to be far more mutation driven than seasonally influenced (seasonality has some bearing, but is far from the dominant driver).

If this post above is accurate, then this is a system that seriously needs to be re-tooled as it is currently not fit for purpose. If they truly are running shipping, purchase, storage, training, and manufacturing validation for every iteration/update of Pfizer and Novavax covid vaccines then that seems the very definition of 'box-ticking' mentality.

Both are known suppliers and would have gone through all those steps in the first place....are they really repeating them with each vaccine update?

Also, why, after nearly 4 years do we have no access to Moderna?

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#3257833 9-Jul-2024 18:13

I was due end of june. But come down with whatever is going around and beds you for 4 days (but tests negative) at present 2 weeks back. With a lingering 'ahem' left so was upfront about it and was still allowed to go through with a top up.

Will see what the next few days brings. Body will be on the back end of overdrive potentially.

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#3258224 10-Jul-2024 17:45

Batwing: Right so nothing there says it ended

It was never formally announced either (only the public health emergency declaration by the WHO)

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#3265939 29-Jul-2024 17:27

Hmmm...... No weekly case number update yet today.

I wonder if they made the person redundant who was responsible for updating the web site?

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#3266033 29-Jul-2024 20:20

msukiwi:

Hmmm...... No weekly case number update yet today.

I wonder if they made the person redundant who was responsible for updating the web site?

The raw data is up on the Github repository, the web team might be on leave :)

https://github.com/minhealthnz/nz-covid-data/tree/main/cases

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#3266477 30-Jul-2024 22:34

Batwing: Right so nothing there says it ended

athletes at the Olympics are competing some not knowing they have covid, tested after feeling unwell, then take a few days off and then race another event. it's like catching a cold it seems.

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#3266498 31-Jul-2024 07:43

Maybe for that biased sample it is?

Still going through workmates at a decent rate and they're definitely not finding it mild

spacedog

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#3266509 31-Jul-2024 08:45

Batwing: Maybe for that biased sample it is?

Still going through workmates at a decent rate and they're definitely not finding it mild

I mean we are talking about human beings who are YOUNG and at absolute peak fitness. The combination of them being young and also more social means they may have had recent infections or by virtue of trying to be competitive, may have also chosen to time getting a booster with the Olympics.

I just picked up KP.3 in the USA last month and had timed my booster to before my travel. I still got sick, but it was mild (2 days of having mild cold symptoms) and then a remarkably rapid recovery. On Day 3 I felt significantly better and by day 5 I was testing negative. It's anecdotal, but I really think it was the booster was what made the difference.

Looks like Ministry of Health cases has been updated, but honestly, I find that data totally useless now given how many people do not go to the doctors, do not test, and if they do test, they aren't reporting it to anyone. As such, the only data that I find meaningful to look at now is ESR's surveillance dashboard.

Wastewater cases of Covid in Auckland increased 257% from July14-July21. Data for week ending July 28th should be up soon. Also JN.1 looks like it is probably extinct in NZ at this point given that 65% of cases were KP.3 at June30th and KP.3 was growing by nearly 15% per week.

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#3266519 31-Jul-2024 09:27

It's both interesting and telling when the wastewater testing shows a significant increase ahead of a jump in reported cases. I agree - I think a lot of people aren't bothering to test for Covid (as opposed to just being a cold or anything else).

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