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  #2447196 26-Mar-2020 14:35
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I watched the feed today, I'm 99% sure he said it was ok for a short drive to the park. The point was local. And short means short, not 5km. As in same suburb, a few blocks etc. I will re watch later

 

 

As stated a few pages earlier, here's the views of Police Commissioner Mike Bush talking about driving your car, he seems to think you can't drive it to the beach or park for some fresh air:

 

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/christchurch/canterbury-mornings-with-chris-lynch/audio/mike-bush-warns-people-against-leaving-their-houses-during-lockdown/

 

From the above:

 

Don't even think about driving to the beach or a park for some fresh air once the lockdown starts. That's the message from police commissioner Mike Bush, who told NewstalkZB host Chris Lynch that people should only go out in their cars to get essential supplies.

 

"What happens if somebody wants to go for a drive, say to a local beach or get out and about to a local park?" Lynch asked. "Are they in a position to drive there?"

 

"There's a short answer to that - no they're not," replied Bush. "You only go out in your vehicle if you need to go and get essential food supplies, essential medical supplies or medical treatment. Otherwise, please stay at home."

 

Sure, if Mike Bush has softened his view on the above statement, well that would be more consistent with the PM's views.

 

 

 

 

Go to 21:15  

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120495548/live-pm-jacinda-ardern-to-give-update-on-coronavirus-alert-level

 

Keep it local, dont be driving willy nilly all over town, if its nearby, if its for exercise, thats ok

 

 

 

As I mentioned in another post, there is no time to sort out all these grey areas. If they did, the lockdown would be weeks away, so they made a call, and these bits and pieces get sorted out on the fly.


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  #2447197 26-Mar-2020 14:36
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What happen if the cars can't start and battery dead because the car been sitting in garage or outdoor for people without garage for awhile especially weather getting cold and cars sometimes can be harder to start? Will road services even able to come and help you jump start the car if battery dead?

 

I drive an old car, if the car sit there without start for awhile I know the digital clock will reset and the battery will be dead soon and can't start the car. I won't mind just to drive about 30 minutes around local and let the car alternator have a good charge the battery and then home. But police will stop and question you and will follow you, also people trying to be enforcer now. So no matter what you trying to do now people will judge at you.

 

 

Idle the car, it charges just as well at idle. And stay at home. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand?


 
 
 
 


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  #2447198 26-Mar-2020 14:36
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There was a comment earlier about deaths of relatively young medical staff, with a viral load hypothesis.

There is another factor common to medical staff, sleep deprivation. Sleep deprivation is known to reduce the immune response and increase susceptibility to viruses and inhibit recovery.

Personally I support the health boards using nearby hotels and apartments to minimise these risks for medical staff or requesting empty apartments etc.

It's an unfortunate fact that medical training prepares medical staff to ignore sleep deprivation. They should be encouraged to get much more sleep than usual in this situation. More so while they can. @lchiu, @FineWine, @networkn.

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  #2447200 26-Mar-2020 14:37
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Oops @gchiu for post above.

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  #2447202 26-Mar-2020 14:41
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Worst case scenario already unfolding - 4 staff at Hamilton Rest Home test positive to Covid-19.  They were contacts of a resident who was positive.  Now, to see if they have been able to quarantine them in time.l


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  #2447203 26-Mar-2020 14:42
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Rikkitic:

 

Instead of going out of our way to pick holes in everything (there are bound to be contradictions and inconsistencies), we should be going out of our way to follow the advice as completely as possible. This isn't a hacker game where you get a reward for finding a back door.

 

 

 

 

100% Why are some getting so nitpicky. As Matt stated re our grandparents great grandpatents, going off to war, I bet they didn't bitch about how long the boot laces are


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  #2447212 26-Mar-2020 14:44
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Idle the car, it charges just as well at idle. And stay at home. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand?

 

 

Or disconnect the battery.


 
 
 
 


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  #2447213 26-Mar-2020 14:44
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I walked past a supermarket carpark at around 1.30 pm & it was barely quarter full of cars, no sign of a queue at the front entrance.   So it seems people are getting the message.   Very few cars on the road.

 

 

Thats cos their garage and garden shed is already full  :-)


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  #2447214 26-Mar-2020 14:44
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Are home fibre faults (voip) an essential service so that a technician from the appropriate service can go to the property to fix faults if issue can not be resolved by other means ??

 

Read here for history of question:   #2446635





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  #2447215 26-Mar-2020 14:44
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gzt: There was a comment earlier about deaths of relatively young medical staff, with a viral load hypothesis.

There is another factor common to medical staff, sleep deprivation. Sleep deprivation is known to reduce the immune response and increase susceptibility to viruses and inhibit recovery.

Personally I support the health boards using nearby hotels and apartments to minimise these risks for medical staff or requesting empty apartments etc.

It's an unfortunate fact that medical training prepares medical staff to ignore sleep deprivation. They should be encouraged to get much more sleep than usual in this situation. More so while they can. @lchiu, @FineWine, @networkn.

 

I don't know about this hypothesis.  I worked 1:2 rosters when I was young and didn't get sick.  And although I might have started work at 8 am on Friday, and finished at 5 pm on Monday working at Waikato Hospital, the worst that happened was that I fell asleep while talking to patients.




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  #2447235 26-Mar-2020 14:48
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gchiu:

 

afe66:
But stopping elective surgery doesn't stop in multi trauma patients, critically ill medical patients and cardiac arrest patients from still needing icu beds.

 

Stopping people driving likely stops the trauma.

 

Cross fingers we don't have a significant earthquake.

 

 

i nearly died when i read this. luckily batman suit has defibrillator.





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  #2447237 26-Mar-2020 14:52
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gchiu:

 

gzt: There was a comment earlier about deaths of relatively young medical staff, with a viral load hypothesis.

There is another factor common to medical staff, sleep deprivation. Sleep deprivation is known to reduce the immune response and increase susceptibility to viruses and inhibit recovery.

Personally I support the health boards using nearby hotels and apartments to minimise these risks for medical staff or requesting empty apartments etc.

It's an unfortunate fact that medical training prepares medical staff to ignore sleep deprivation. They should be encouraged to get much more sleep than usual in this situation. More so while they can. @lchiu, @FineWine, @networkn.

 

I don't know about this hypothesis.  I worked 1:2 rosters when I was young and didn't get sick.  And although I might have started work at 8 am on Friday, and finished at 5 pm on Monday working at Waikato Hospital, the worst that happened was that I fell asleep while talking to patients.

 

I found as I got older, mid to late 40's, I could not do 12 hr shifts and certainly not do 2 or more 12 hr shifts in a row. Then into my 50's and 60's I was doing 10 hr shifts which just prior to retirement I was finding a bit of a strain. I was alright if I kept myself busy, that is why I liked caring for babies. Give me 3 or 4 babies and I am busier than a cow with one tit. Or even a Hi-Flow O2 bronch child. The shift just goes. But if I was caring for teens with broken bones or even CF's then the shifts dragged.





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  #2447238 26-Mar-2020 14:55
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Batman:

 

 

 

so can you do a 2.5km bike ride?

 

 

You have already read this

 

Keep it local, dont be driving willy nilly all over town, if its nearby, if its for exercise, thats ok

 

 


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  #2447245 26-Mar-2020 15:03
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Can't believe how many people either have no common sense or have thrown it completely out the window with this lockdown. So many stupid "can I do this", "can I go here" questions everywhere! Yes follow all official advice, but that doesn't mean you have to completely absolve yourself of any thinking and decision making. All the information is available online, probably at the covid website. But it seems people are too lazy and just ask in any old public forum.


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iamaelephant:

 

pinkydot:

 

What happen if the cars can't start and battery dead because the car been sitting in garage or outdoor for people without garage for awhile especially weather getting cold and cars sometimes can be harder to start? Will road services even able to come and help you jump start the car if battery dead?

 

I drive an old car, if the car sit there without start for awhile I know the digital clock will reset and the battery will be dead soon and can't start the car. I won't mind just to drive about 30 minutes around local and let the car alternator have a good charge the battery and then home. But police will stop and question you and will follow you, also people trying to be enforcer now. So no matter what you trying to do now people will judge at you.

 

 

Idle the car, it charges just as well at idle. 

 

 

No, that's not the case. Normally the charging voltage doesn't rise to anything useful until around 3000 RPM.

 

 


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