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  #2448045 27-Mar-2020 14:18
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So still only one person in ICU in Nelson.

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  #2448048 27-Mar-2020 14:20
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kingdragonfly: HOBBY LOBBY. 

 

... While we do not know for certain what the future holds, or how long this disruption will last, we can all rest in knowing that God is in control.  ...

 




 





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  #2448056 27-Mar-2020 14:27
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If anyone thinks that a supermarket is profiteering more than normal, then let's see a price comparison.

If this is proven then they won't have any customers in the future.

Btw I queried the computer company if they could discount their prices for printers that could print, PPE they said not.

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  #2448064 27-Mar-2020 14:33
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frankv:

 

 

 

The problem is ICU beds... after our ICUs are full, 5% of infected people will die. If we have ICU beds available, only 1% die. So we could allow (say) Auckland to become infected and develop herd immunity, whilst maintaining infection-control "borders" between it and the rest of NZ. Allow open travel between Auckland and the rest of the world. When Auckland's ICUs are full, transport patients to ICUs in other hospitals around the country. When the demand for ICU beds from Auckland falls, remove the "border" between Auckland and Northland. Again, use the whole country's ICUs to treat patients from Northland. Repeat again for Waikato, BOP, etc, etc until the whole country has herd immunity.

 

 

 

 

Anyone know if the government has asked any local manufacturers to look into making  ventilators seriously? Countries like UK appear to have more ventilators per population than NZ has, and apparently 10,000 new ones are being order from Dyson for the UK . I don't know if NZ has any plans to buy new ones due to the current demand for them in other countries? https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/26/tech/dyson-ventilators-coronavirus/index.htm

 

If Dyson can make them, and they basically make consumer fan and vacuum devices, I can't see why a NZ company couldn't make them considering ventilators aren't exactly new technology, they have been around for decades, and NZ does have a number 8 wire philosophy 


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  #2448065 27-Mar-2020 14:33
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The New World I have just visited is doing a fantastic job.   Firstly they have a queue type entrance with a staff member explaining procedures.   On the way in & out you sanitize hands.   There was plenty of stock, with a few limits such as 2 tins of baked beans.   Plenty of loo paper several brands.   Friendly & helpful check-out.   You pack your own bags now.  

 

I had a look on Google Maps before leaving on my shopping trip & most were showing around two thirds of the customers normal for a Friday.   I also timed my shopping for around 1pm when many would be sat in front of the TV watching the latest Ministry of Health update!


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  #2448084 27-Mar-2020 14:42
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Jerry Falwell, Jr rose to national prominence when his other school, Liberty Christian Academy, prohibited non-white enrollment and, thus, lost tax-exempt status.

He "always thought that, if more good people had concealed-carry permits, then we could end those Muslims before they walked in and killed them."

A 2019 Politico article described the University as a "dictatorship" in which Falwell ruled through fear; it also reported that the University sold merchandise promoting Donald Trump's presidential campaign; that Falwell Jr. had crude discussions about his sex life at work; and that Falwell Jr. showed other Liberty employees provocative photos of his wife.

Asked in a January 2019 interview, "Is there anything President Trump could do that would endanger that support from you or other evangelical leaders?", Falwell answered, "No."



Christian Headlines: Virginia govenor quotes Bible, pleads with Evangelical Jerry Falwell, Jr. to close Liberty University

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam is pleading with Liberty University’s president to reconsider a move reopening the campus during the COVID-19 pandemic, saying it’s risking lives and sending students the wrong message.

Liberty University President Jerry Falwell, Jr. said this week the campus would reopen for students and employees, although classes would continue to be given online.

As of Thursday, 460 people statewide had tested positive for the coronavirus and 13 had died.

“We have heard too many mixed messages around the country about COVID-19, and this is yet another example,” Northam said at a press conference. “Our message has been clear and it will continue to be clear: Stay home unless you have to leave for essential reasons. We appreciate our colleges and universities making accommodation for students with special cases. But that is very different from inviting students to leave their homes and come back to campus.”

Northam also quoted Scripture.

“As we are told in First Corinthians, ‘It is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful,’” he said, referencing 1 Corinthians 4:2. “Proving faithful means providing clear and consistent guidance. And it means respecting the duty that Liberty University has to its students, its staff, the Lynchburg community in which it is located, and our commonwealth.”
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  #2448089 27-Mar-2020 14:46
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Now that we are in lockdown, I hope that the government and health ministry have all watched the recent Bill Gates Ted Talk interview, about what we should do to make the most of our lock-down, and we can't go out of it too early. In China parts are still in lockdown.

 

Testing is key, and the WHO have said test test test. In China they apparently tested everyone in certain areas so they knew who had it, and who didn't.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe8fIjxicoo

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2448093 27-Mar-2020 14:49
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Since Falwell is such a believer, he and others like him should go kiss a snake. That's what the faithful do, isn't it?

 

 





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  #2448096 27-Mar-2020 14:52
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Rikkitic:

 

Since Falwell is such a believer, he and others like him should go kiss a snake. That's what the faithful do, isn't it?

 

 

 

 

The modern equivalent is lick a toilet seat while on Tiktok


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  #2448098 27-Mar-2020 14:55
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gchiu: If anyone thinks that a supermarket is profiteering more than normal, then let's see a price comparison.

If this is proven then they won't have any customers in the future.

Btw I queried the computer company if they could discount their prices for printers that could print, PPE they said not.

 

 

 

You would  need to know their cost price, and any rebates they are getting, or have had in the past to do a full comparison


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  #2448099 27-Mar-2020 14:56
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cshwone:

 

Supermarkets are putting up their prices for items and that is a conscious decision by them - at the very least government should be having a word at the highest level with the CEO's

 

Regulation and all that entails should be a last resort

 

 

Folks, read the explanation above which is from another thread. Supermarket promotions are not run by the supermarkets themselves. The suppliers/producers give the supermarkets guidance on prices, when to discount and how much. They pay for advertising, where to advertise even where on the store things should be during promotion.

 

If this is taken away, the supermarkets don't run the promotion.

 

Unless you have intricate insider knowledge - and can give evidence to me - then stop with the discussion now.





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  #2448118 27-Mar-2020 15:25
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Don’t forget the government could cut food bills by 15% at a stroke if they wanted to.





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  #2448123 27-Mar-2020 15:30
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And they could cut GST on everything.

 

GST affects the poor more than anyone else.


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