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  #2449183 29-Mar-2020 08:04
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The US with close to 117k cases shot straight passed Italy is surely the epicentre now.

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  #2449185 29-Mar-2020 08:11
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eracode:

 

 

 

Individual Australians can be very nice people - but as a national group they’re a horrible people. The only country whose people I detest as a generalised group. 

 

 

Don't let the actions or inaction of the government affect how you see the people and descend into xenophobia





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  #2449186 29-Mar-2020 08:11
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Dial111: The US with close to 117k cases shot straight passed Italy is surely the epicentre now.

 

TBH I don't think there is any one epicentre now.  I think the world is splitting into two camps - those where restrictions were applied early enough to make a difference and those that delayed.  I believe we are in the former and unfortunately for them, the USA, Italy and Spain are in the latter group.  Lets hope we all make it through.


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  #2449189 29-Mar-2020 08:27
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MikeB4:

 

eracode:

 

 

 

Individual Australians can be very nice people - but as a national group they’re a horrible people. The only country whose people I detest as a generalised group. 

 

 

Don't let the actions or inaction of the government affect how you see the people and descend into xenophobia

 

 

Australia started descending into a racist xenophobic nation in 1788. 


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  #2449190 29-Mar-2020 08:33
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neb:
Fred99:

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive?

It's not a mystery at all, if you've got a test with a certain FP and FN rate, a.k.a. Type 1 and 2 errors, and you rerun the test you're going to get this in a small number of cases. It's like cancer tests, run enough of them on a person and everyone has cancer if you assume a single positive at any point is a true positive. So you just need to stab people up the nose the requisite number of times and you'll know with good certainty :-).

 

That’s stating as fact something that is a theory, when we don’t know yet. In the video posted by batman, the head of a large Korea hospital talked about cases that had recovered, then they return in a week or two. That is evidence against that theory (although it isn’t obvious whether the cause is reinfection versus relapse).

 

Note that I found the video strange: it’s like the guy is just repeating the information from known papers versus their own observations. He basically says aerosols are a minor issue, then talks about the church as though droplets somehow were different there, when aerosols seems a better answer. Anyway, at least he is checked by reality, unlike many other reports. I admit I stopped watching after 10 minutes.


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  #2449191 29-Mar-2020 08:35
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Azzura:

Q: What mistakes are other countries making?


A: The big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren’t wearing masks. This virus is transmitted by droplets and close contact.



I was handing out masks to patients when they came to see me a couple of weeks ago. And I wore a mask as well so neither of us could infect the other.

The supermarkets staff need to be worried.

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  #2449192 29-Mar-2020 08:41
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networkn:

How do we treat Australian residents here affected by C19? 


I think the way Kiwi's are being treated in Australia is a disgrace. I think a very simple acid test should be applied to those who can be covered. It should be something like: If you have paid tax in Australia for at least 2 Years, you should receive all the same privileges a native Australian does. We should do the same here. 


For those who don't qualify, something should exist where they receive benefits and the NZ Government pays it. 


Probably needs more refinement, but people shouldn't be facing homelessness in a country they have contributed to meaningfully.


 



So what can we as kiwis do to help their cause? I was thinking yesterday that we really need to start an old fashioned email campaign to select Australian politicians. Yeah call me "old school".

I know that there is already a petition on change.org on this very topic, but I'm assuming that at the end, the organiser just sends the one email detailing that petition has however many hundred thousand e-signatures.

As an aside I also noted that the 4 petitions trending on the home page of change.org are all targeted at Australian issues, with the treatment of kiwis at the top of that list.

Will add my name to the petition for a start anyway.
https://www.change.org/p/give-full-centrelink-support-for-kiwis-who-live-and-work-in-australia-covid-19?source_location=discover_feed

 
 
 
 


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  #2449193 29-Mar-2020 08:41
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cshwone:

 

I believe we are in the former and unfortunately for them, the USA, Italy and Spain are in the latter group. 

 

 

Be assured - you are in the same. Up to now, your infection rate doesn't differ in no way from ours. You are just 10-11 days later.

 

When the infection rate from 3 or 4 days before doubles - you are in trouble.





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  #2449197 29-Mar-2020 08:47
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MikeB4:

 

eracode:

 

 

 

Individual Australians can be very nice people - but as a national group they’re a horrible people. The only country whose people I detest as a generalised group. 

 

 

Don't let the actions or inaction of the government affect how you see the people and descend into xenophobia

 

 

 

 

They get the government they deserve and different parties have had very similar approaches. I honestly think they don't give a RA about ANZAC etc - except when it suits them. Sorry - going OT.





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  #2449198 29-Mar-2020 08:52
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Tinkerisk:

 

cshwone:

 

I believe we are in the former and unfortunately for them, the USA, Italy and Spain are in the latter group. 

 

 

Be assured - you are in the same. Up to now, your infection rate doesn't differ in no way from ours. You are just 10-11 days later.

 

When the infection rate from 3 or 4 days before doubles - you are in trouble.

 

 

And I believe those days could make all the difference where although in the short term we will rapidly climb we should plateau a lot earlier.


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  #2449200 29-Mar-2020 08:54
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cshwone:

 

And I believe those days could make all the difference where although in the short term we will rapidly climb we should plateau a lot earlier.

 

 

I hope you are right.





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  #2449202 29-Mar-2020 08:56
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Tinkerisk:

 

cshwone:

 

I believe we are in the former and unfortunately for them, the USA, Italy and Spain are in the latter group. 

 

 

Be assured - you are in the same. Up to now, your infection rate doesn't differ in no way from ours. You are just 10-11 days later.

 

When the infection rate from 3 or 4 days before doubles - you are in trouble.

 

 

I hope you're wrong.  Our total infected figures split into "imported/isolated" "traced local CT" and "untraceable CT", plus we're in quite a tight lockdown.  How quickly the virus exploits holes in the lockdown is the problem.  


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  #2449204 29-Mar-2020 08:57
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networkn:

Ashley Bloomfield is currently my hero!


He got his first day off in quite some time.


NZ'r of the year for me so far.



Why? He Spent all of February & early March reassuring us about a "low risk of a community outbreak". He was wrong , we now have a community outbreak, have had to shut the country down & face a severe recession.


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  #2449212 29-Mar-2020 09:07
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Fred99:

 

How quickly the virus exploits holes in the lockdown is the problem.  

 

 

Indeed.





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  #2449217 29-Mar-2020 09:24
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dogstar001:
networkn:

Ashley Bloomfield is currently my hero!


He got his first day off in quite some time.


NZ'r of the year for me so far.



Why? He Spent all of February & early March reassuring us about a "low risk of a community outbreak". He was wrong , we now have a community outbreak, have had to shut the country down & face a severe recession.



Sadly that seems to be the logical conclusion.

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