2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2453299 2-Apr-2020 20:19

kingdragonfly: Failure to take defense measures against the pandemic is not the product of authoritarian caprice. Just delusion and mismanagement.

"President ............ ................ believes himself to be a world authority on many things, including, to the misfortune of his put-upon subjects, health and medicine. "

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It's from the article @kingdragonfly linked to about the President of Turkmenistan and his determined head in the sand attitude to Coronavirus. But equally it describes the Trump. Makes you think...

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#2453305 2-Apr-2020 20:31

Our youths really are letting the side down

Sigh - dicks.

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#2453311 2-Apr-2020 20:37

dejadeadnz:

Sigh - dicks.

IMO people that don't follow the rules, will just keep us in lockdown for longer, simple as that. I recall that is also what thy said when level 3 and 4 was announced. I do wonder if they will look into curfews.

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#2453312 2-Apr-2020 20:39

dejadeadnz:

Our youths really are letting the side down

Sigh - dicks.

The Police approach I feel is best. EEE But reading between the lines I can see a line being crossed, and they go hard, enforcement wise. They do need to be lawful, but there is discretion in this state or emergency. IANAL. If they can be non aggressive but just grab these idiots and throw them into cells, there masses will rejoice.As in the EQ's when people stole gas bottles, they got arrested, in custody, but bugger a court date isn't for a month or two.

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#2453319 2-Apr-2020 20:51

dejadeadnz:
Our youths really are letting the side down

Sigh - dicks.

A bit of community service would seem appropriate like digging graves for the victims.

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#2453349 2-Apr-2020 21:20

gchiu:
dejadeadnz:

Our youths really are letting the side down

Sigh - dicks.

A bit of community service would seem appropriate like digging graves for the victims.

Nah, hit 'em where it really hurts. No social media for a month.

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#2453361 2-Apr-2020 21:32

Not just the youngs letting us down. It's our leadership too.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120780372/health-minister-drives-to-local-park-to-ride-his-mountain-bike-amid-coronavirus-lockdown

Health Minister drives to local park to ride his mountain bike, amid coronavirus lockdown

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#2453377 2-Apr-2020 22:05

iamaelephant:
Not just the youngs letting us down. It's our leadership too.

One shouldn't confuse politicians with leaders

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#2453383 2-Apr-2020 22:09

Like it or not, ministers are leaders in New Zealand's parliamentary system.

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#2453386 2-Apr-2020 22:17

I see heaps people going for runs, and walks.
And then when they come to a traffic crossing....you can guess.

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#2453388 2-Apr-2020 22:22

iamaelephant:

Not just the youngs letting us down. It's our leadership too.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120780372/health-minister-drives-to-local-park-to-ride-his-mountain-bike-amid-coronavirus-lockdown

Health Minister drives to local park to ride his mountain bike, amid coronavirus lockdown

Maybe his excuse is he did not know there was a lockdown happening.

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#2453391 2-Apr-2020 22:29

iamaelephant: Like it or not, ministers are leaders in New Zealand's parliamentary system.

I don't entirely agree, leadership is a trait and a leader needs to earn the support to get accepted as a leader. Just because someone is voted into a position it doesn't make them a leader even though you might hope that is the case.

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#2453392 2-Apr-2020 22:33

Sorry what point are you guys trying to make by arguing the semantics of the term leader? Can we keep it on topic - the minister of health, someone quite influential during a health crisis, is breaking his own government's guidelines while we all suffer in isolation. If you don't have anything to add to the conversation feel free to stay out of it completely.

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#2453393 2-Apr-2020 22:35

iamaelephant:

Not just the youngs letting us down. It's our leadership too.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120780372/health-minister-drives-to-local-park-to-ride-his-mountain-bike-amid-coronavirus-lockdown

Health Minister drives to local park to ride his mountain bike, amid coronavirus lockdown

Not only was he a dick for doing this it was a dumb. I mean parking a sign written van at a place like that for all to see!!!! Talk about drawing attention. The Minister of Health of all people. Do as I say not do as I do. Comes back to leading by example, but then again is he a leader or just a figurehead?

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#2453400 2-Apr-2020 22:56

iamaelephant: If you don't have anything to add to the conversation feel free to stay out of it completely.

Take a look at your own posts and feel free to include yourself in this admonishment.

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