2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2453490 3-Apr-2020 08:18

Bondi Beach was the Australian hot spot for people thinking that 'Stay at Home' meant other people staying at home.

In New Zealand it might be Kaitaia with far too many people in the main street according to locals and the Police. One young guy told the tv reporter they were 'having a party every night'. Of course that could have been a wind up. Who knows.

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#2453495 3-Apr-2020 08:28

Sidestep:

And in Canada Adults under the age of 40 account for 10 per cent of hospital admissions related to coronavirus, including this 34 year old youth worker, father of three and husband.

An important thing to remember about this 10% is that without hospitalisation they are very likely to die. This is why it is so important for us to keep hospital beds available for those who need them.

Even for those who survive this virus, if it gets serious enough to need hospitalisation it appears to be leaving sufferers with permanent organ damage.

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#2453498 3-Apr-2020 08:31

amiga500:

Bondi Beach was the Australian hot spot for people thinking that 'Stay at Home' meant other people staying at home.

In New Zealand it might be Kaitaia with far too many people in the main street according to locals and the Police. One young guy told the tv reporter they were 'having a party every night'. Of course that could have been a wind up. Who knows.

This doctor had some harsh words for those in Kaitaia.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120746934/coronavirus-dr-lance-osullivan-says-lockdown-in-kaitaia-a-joke

Unfortunately the Twitter dog-pile decided this man was going to be their victim for the day yesterday as they took his video as "shaming beneficiaries" because he happened to make the video on benefit day. Which is obviously an absurd reading of the video, but that's Twitter for you. He is making an important point.

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#2453503 3-Apr-2020 08:38

well I've been told off by the missus for thinking this was a 1 April joke. apparently it's not. NZ is (Otago University Virology Lab) is trying to "isolate" the SARS-CoV-2 virus and do research ... i'm not a praying person but maybe i should start, and those who do, please pray for the research to work

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#2453506 3-Apr-2020 08:48

From this NZHerald item https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12322029

During a media briefing addressing the temporary closure of the inpatient ward at Lakes District Hospital yesterday, Southern District Health Board chief executive Chris Fleming could not confirm where attendees of the wedding had dispersed to.

"We don't know — I know there are some from Dunedin and some from Invercargill. I don't have the specific numbers, sorry," he said.

This sums up the lack of critical thinking in some areas on how we need to be handling this pandemic.

Why don't they know? They absolutely should have known when that question was asked.

To me one of the basics to stopping the spread of the virus is having a robust system in place to track potentially infected people who have been at a known source of the virus. If you don't have this information it's bit like having a boxing match in the dark. You are throwing wild punches in the hope they make contact.

We have successfully eradicated MBovis etc yet we seem to be flailing around when it come to Covid-19

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#2453509 3-Apr-2020 08:51

LA mayor recommends Masks for public

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/04/02/los-angeles-mayor-recommends-public-wear-masks-as-trump-administration-weighs-new-guidance/

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#2453513 3-Apr-2020 09:02

Technofreak:

We have successfully eradicated MBovis etc yet we seem to be flailing around when it come to Covid-19

Didn't that involve the mass culling of whole herds though? Might struggle to get that past the human rights people!

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#2453514 3-Apr-2020 09:06

Batman:

LA mayor recommends Masks for public

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/04/02/los-angeles-mayor-recommends-public-wear-masks-as-trump-administration-weighs-new-guidance/

What you left out is that the suggestion is for homemade masks or bandanas, leaving the medical-grade ones for the frontline people. And only use when going out for essentials.

Masks are a vector too - if people don't put and remove them correctly. If people use the same mask for days and days, all day long.

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#2453520 3-Apr-2020 09:15

Batman:

well I've been told off by the missus for thinking this was a 1 April joke. apparently it's not. NZ is (Otago University Virology Lab) is trying to "isolate" the SARS-CoV-2 virus and do research ... i'm not a praying person but maybe i should start, and those who do, please pray for the research to work

https://www.facebook.com/microtago/posts/2995189000505635

Why would that be a joke?

Seems perfectly normal and reasonable that a lab researching viruses would need viruses.

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#2453532 3-Apr-2020 09:38

Pretty horrific milestones passed this morning:

One million infected, 50,000 dead, 5% of those known to have contracted the disease have died so far, and only 200,000 of the million confirmed cases have been counted as "recovered".

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#2453553 3-Apr-2020 09:50

Fred99:

Pretty horrific milestones passed this morning:

One million infected, 50,000 dead, 5% of those known to have contracted the disease have died so far, and only 200,000 of the million confirmed cases have been counted as "recovered".

Pretty depressing reading this morning with both France and the UK accelerating and the US way way beyond that. We were discussing by conference call when we could expect to start traveling again for work as we have some pretty essential offshore stuff to take care off. Consensus was the end of this year at the earliest but I think that may be extremely optimistic.

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#2453558 3-Apr-2020 09:56

Technofreak:

From this NZHerald item https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12322029

Southland / Otago regions have (at the time of writing this) double the NZ average cases per capita, but low population density.

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#2453559 3-Apr-2020 09:56

So what is recovered? Is it free of symptoms? Free of symptoms for (insert figure here) days? No long term health issues? The death toll from known cases is also skewed by the amount of testing actually being done.

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#2453561 3-Apr-2020 10:01

Dingbatt:

Technofreak:

We have successfully eradicated MBovis etc yet we seem to be flailing around when it come to Covid-19

Didn't that involve the mass culling of whole herds though? Might struggle to get that past the human rights people!

Yes it did, and No I wasn't suggesting anything like mass culling as a solution to Covid 19. I was making the point that with other things that have threatened our country we have applied a seemingly more focused strategy than appears to be happening with Covid 19. Like not having an effective tracking system.

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#2453566 3-Apr-2020 10:03

I guess if we tagged everyone, perhaps with an earring, so we could track them accurately, it'd be much easier!
Logically it makes absolute sense, but getting it to happen however...

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