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  #2456993 8-Apr-2020 11:42
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The Washington Post is giving a lot of positive coverage to New Zealand's coronavirus campaign:

 

 

 

New Zealand isn’t just flattening the curve. It’s squashing it.

 

April 7, 2020

 


HAVELOCK NORTH, New Zealand - It has been less than two weeks since New Zealand imposed a coronavirus lockdown so strict that swimming at the beach and hunting in bushland were banned. They’re not essential activities, plus we have been told not to do anything that could divert emergency services’ resources.

 

People have been walking and biking strictly in their neighborhoods, lining up six feet apart outside grocery stores while waiting to go one-in-one-out, and joining swaths of the world in discovering the vagaries of home schooling.

 

It took only 10 days for signs that the approach here - “elimination” rather than the “containment” goal of the United States and other Western countries - is working.

 

The number of new cases has fallen for two consecutive days, despite a huge increase in testing, with 54 confirmed or probable cases reported Tuesday. That means the number of people who have recovered, 65, exceeds the number of daily infections. ...

 

 

 

 

Tooth fairy and Easter Bunny are ‘essential workers,’ New Zealand’s Jacinda Ardern confirms

 

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During a time of global crisis, climbing death tolls and widespread uncertainty, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has been hailed globally for her compassionate handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

 

She continued to win hearts Monday when she clarified who exactly has made a list of “essential workers.”

 

“You’ll be pleased to know that we do consider both the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny to be essential workers,” she said, smiling. “But as you can imagine, at this time they’re going to be potentially quite busy at home with their family as well and their own bunnies.”  ...

 





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  #2457003 8-Apr-2020 12:05
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Not quite the same format but I think provides the info you are asking about?  A very different picture.  Taiwan = under control, NZ ... (well not quite the rosy picture some would have us believe?

 

Prepared for the data & analysis thread but posting here as may be of more general interest? (except will be buried several pages back in a few hours 🙃)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rather concerning, seems to show lots of local/family/community transmission right? circa 80-90% in the last few days? 





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  #2457005 8-Apr-2020 12:10
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DS248: ... 

 

Not quite the same format but I think provides the info you are asking about?  A very different picture.  Taiwan = under control, NZ ... (well not quite the rosy picture some would have us believe?

 

...

 

 

 

And a related plot. 

 

Other than imported cases do not tell quite the same story as the changes in total cases ...

 

Be wary of the data for the last few days, especially the last (6 Apr) as these are incomplete.  More will be added especially to 6 Apr over the next day or two.  The updates each day include some with report dates from a few days previously

 

 

 

 


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  #2457008 8-Apr-2020 12:12
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Rather concerning, seems to show lots of local/family/community transmission right? circa 80-90% in the last few days? 

 

 

Yes thats right, but this is where the lockdown has its biggest effect.  Being in the bubble for 2 weeks means most cases would/should be starting to show and the spread from a bubble is now limited.

 

Where the logic fails is people going to the supermarket etc sick.  I dont know how plain and simple it needs to be explained, if you have any symptoms of a cold or flu you absolutely should not go out.  Reading about the case in which a lady infected her employee beggars belief.

 

One can understand the frustration in not getting a test, and that is a problem in itself, however if you even contemplated needing a test why are you not self isolating!?


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  #2457013 8-Apr-2020 12:20
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For comparison with the last plot, Taiwan had just three (3) locally acquired cases in the last ten days (with 4.6x our population).  For use that would equate to 3 local cases is almost seven weeks.


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  #2457014 8-Apr-2020 12:22
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Sideface:

 

The Washington Post is giving a lot of positive coverage to New Zealand's coronavirus campaign:

 

 

 

New Zealand isn’t just flattening the curve. It’s squashing it.

 

April 7, 2020

 


HAVELOCK NORTH, New Zealand - It has been less than two weeks since New Zealand imposed a coronavirus lockdown so strict that swimming at the beach and hunting in bushland were banned. They’re not essential activities, plus we have been told not to do anything that could divert emergency services’ resources.

 

People have been walking and biking strictly in their neighborhoods, lining up six feet apart outside grocery stores while waiting to go one-in-one-out, and joining swaths of the world in discovering the vagaries of home schooling.

 

It took only 10 days for signs that the approach here - “elimination” rather than the “containment” goal of the United States and other Western countries - is working.

 

The number of new cases has fallen for two consecutive days, despite a huge increase in testing, with 54 confirmed or probable cases reported Tuesday. That means the number of people who have recovered, 65, exceeds the number of daily infections. ...

 

 

 

Tooth fairy and Easter Bunny are ‘essential workers,’ New Zealand’s Jacinda Ardern confirms

 

April 7, 2020

 


During a time of global crisis, climbing death tolls and widespread uncertainty, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has been hailed globally for her compassionate handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

 

She continued to win hearts Monday when she clarified who exactly has made a list of “essential workers.”

 

“You’ll be pleased to know that we do consider both the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny to be essential workers,” she said, smiling. “But as you can imagine, at this time they’re going to be potentially quite busy at home with their family as well and their own bunnies.”  ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reporter is a kiwi (currently in NZ)... so international press is bit of a stretch...





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  #2457296 8-Apr-2020 12:52
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From Bill Maher's most recent show, the "New Rules" segment called "Brood wakening"

"Married couples who spent years quietly pitying single people, especially those of us who don't have children, have to answer this question: 'how do you like me now?'"

 
 
 
 


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  #2457298 8-Apr-2020 12:57
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mentalinc:

 

Sideface:  The Washington Post is giving a lot of positive coverage to New Zealand's coronavirus campaign:

 

 

The reporter is a kiwi (currently in NZ)... so international press is bit of a stretch...

 

 

Not really a "stretch" ... both reporters are full-time employees of The Washington Post.

 

One (a Kiwi) is their Beijing bureau chief (and is currently in NZ).

The other is a media editor for their foreign desk in London.  EDIT  She is probably a Covid-19 survivor:

 

The Washington Post - I returned to the U.K. from Thailand in January with a fever of 103. I wasn’t tested for coronavirus.





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  #2457301 8-Apr-2020 12:58
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Unfortunately the level4 lock down hasn't stopped the idiots on the roads!

 

Another idiot just went speeding past here at full throttle!

 

(It is still a daily occurrence)


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  #2457303 8-Apr-2020 13:01
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New York are reporting an 18% increase in traffic offences due to the clearer roads it appears..





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  #2457305 8-Apr-2020 13:04
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Jesus the CEO of the Restaurant Association's submission to the parliamentary committee is an offence against the intelligence of her fellow humans. It's mostly a prepared spiel and it's just full of self-centred whinging, including complaints around "Ongoing indecisiveness and lack of planning" -- you try planning for an unprecedented pandemic. She goes as far as saying that it was the role of the government to send out the right messaging ASAP so that people will go out and give money to her members.

 

In short: Money! Money! Money!

 

What a reprehensible human being.

 

 


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  #2457306 8-Apr-2020 13:04
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msukiwi:

 

Unfortunately the level4 lock down hasn't stopped the idiots on the roads!

 

Another idiot just went speeding past here at full throttle!

 

(It is still a daily occurrence)

 

 

And this   https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/themes/beaches/120892242/dunedin-surfer-cycles-30km-for-stress-relieving-surf

 

Also a daily thing. He goes via back streets, the Easter holiday ones drive at night. Its getting rather common, and I know its a squeaky wheel issue, but Id wager its common. A few low case days and some people will decide for themselves that its safe now


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Jesus the CEO of the Restaurant Association's submission to the parliamentary committee is an offence against the intelligence of her fellow humans. It's mostly a prepared spiel and it's just full of self-centred whinging, including complaints around "Ongoing indecisiveness and lack of planning" -- you try planning for an unprecedented pandemic. She goes as far as saying that it was the role of the government to send out the right messaging ASAP so that people will go out and give money to her members.

 

In short: Money! Money! Money!

 

What a reprehensible human being.

 

 

Cashflow is kind of important for businesses. People want to know what moving out of the lockdown looks like. This is not unreasonable. 


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  #2457311 8-Apr-2020 13:14
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Cashflow is kind of important for businesses. People want to know what moving out of the lockdown looks like. This is not unreasonable. 

 

 

No one is disputing that. What I have a problem with is the self-centredness of her messaging, the ongoing failure to recognise that having a piss up or just grabbing a fun meal isn't and ought not to be the government or anyone's ongoing priority during a time of crisis, and the facile but aggressive potshots at people doing their best.

 

 


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  #2457315 8-Apr-2020 13:25
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dejadeadnz:

 

GV27:

 

Cashflow is kind of important for businesses. People want to know what moving out of the lockdown looks like. This is not unreasonable. 

 

 

No one is disputing that. What I have a problem with is the self-centredness of her messaging, the ongoing failure to recognise that having a piss up or just grabbing a fun meal isn't and ought not to be the government or anyone's ongoing priority during a time of crisis, and the facile but aggressive potshots at people doing their best.

 

 

"Doing your best" isn't just a blanket excuse for whether a response is appropriate is lacking in some way. 

 

I think her concerns were warranted given the talk of something like 1 in 5 hospitality businesses just not reopening after lockdown. That's a lot of jobs gone. 


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