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  #2467312 21-Apr-2020 19:30
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New York Times: New Zealand Could Pull Off Bold Goal of Eliminating Virus

While most countries are working on ways to contain the coronavirus, New Zealand has set itself a much more ambitious goal: eliminating it altogether.

...The virus "doesn't have superpowers,” said Helen Petousis-Harris, a vaccine expert at the University of Auckland. “Once transmission is stopped, it’s gone.”

Geography has helped. If any place could be described as socially distant it would be New Zealand, surrounded by stormy seas, with Antarctica to the south. With 5 million people spread across an area the size of Britain, even the cities aren't overly crowded.

And Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has taken bold steps, putting the country under a strict lockdown in late March, when only about 100 people had tested positive for the new virus.

...A study by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development found that because of its reliance on tourism, New Zealand's economy could initially be one of the hardest-hit by the coronavirus among developed nations.

The government, which came into the crisis with its books in relatively good shape, has been handing out billions of dollars in temporary wage subsidies to try and prevent mass unemployment. More than half the nation's workforce has suddenly become reliant on government handouts.

Still, most people appear to support Ardern's strict lockdown... Google mobility data indicates there has been high compliance.

...One of the most symbolic casualties of the outbreak has been Air New Zealand. The airline had been a source of pride for many as it expanded internationally and won industry awards. In a series of frank updates, Chief Executive Greg Foran described how the carrier had reduced flights by 95% and would need to cut its workforce by at least 3,750.

...An unassuming official who spent a year working at the World Health Organization in Geneva, Bloomfield's calm and reassuring presence has turned him into an unlikely heartthrob.

Singer Maxwell Apse wrote a song about Bloomfield that has been viewed more than 75,000 times on YouTube. “If I had one wish, I would make it this: I'd be in your bubble,” go the lyrics.

When New Zealand does come out of its bubble, the path forward remains unclear. It will need to continue relying on its traditional strength in farming to sell things abroad like dairy products, kiwifruit and wine.

Some have suggested the country could first reopen its borders to Australia, which has also been successful in flattening its virus curve.

England-Hall, the tourism executive, said New Zealand will look to first rebuild the domestic tourism market. He said being virus-free could eventually become a selling point abroad for the country.

The conundrum is that to stay virus-free, New Zealand may need to continue its current requirement that new arrivals spend two weeks in quarantine. Given that the average tourist in the past has stayed for about 11 days, it seems an insurmountable obstacle.

Ever the optimist, England-Hall foresees a new type of tourism product in which wealthy people could be pampered during a quarantine period — a kind of isolation spa.

But with travel curtailed, some worry that New Zealand could revert to a more insular version of itself, before cheap flights allowed its citizens to roam the world, and foreigners to visit. A place where isolation can be both a blessing and a curse.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/04/20/business/ap-as-virus-outbreak-new-zealand-elimination.html



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  #2467319 21-Apr-2020 19:47
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DS248: ...

 

 

 

Interestingly, just before lockdown we were only 6-7 days behind where Germany was in terms of new cases per day per capita.

 

 

 

 

Germany I believe are going down the path of - the virus is here to stay, we might as well learn to co-exist. Their mantra is test, isolate, treat + figure out antibody profiling.





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  #2467324 21-Apr-2020 19:51
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kingdragonfly: New York Times: New Zealand Could Pull Off Bold Goal of Eliminating Virus

 

Exactly. Yes NZ, it's your chance! I'd go for it! Will not be a sunny walk but worth the (unpreventable) pain to succeed at the end.





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  #2467325 21-Apr-2020 19:53
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kingdragonfly: New York Times: New Zealand Could Pull Off Bold Goal of Eliminating Virus

 

Exactly. Yes NZ, it's your chance! I'd go for it! Will not be a sunny walk but worth the (unpreventable) pain at the end.

 

 

it's not that simple ... we still have flights going in and out ... also from my understanding the govt has re-defined elimination as basically doing whack-a-mole





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  #2467382 21-Apr-2020 20:15
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this is interesting

 

in the dormitories in Singapore (? >20,000 people in shared living)

 

> 4,000 have tested positive

 

but no ICU admissions ( ? yet)

 

watching closely

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-new-cases-moh-apr-21-foreign-workers-dormitories-12660968





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  #2467391 21-Apr-2020 20:36
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in the dormitories in Singapore (? >20,000 people in shared living)

 

> 4,000 have tested positive

 

but no ICU admissions ( ? yet)

 

watching closely

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-new-cases-moh-apr-21-foreign-workers-dormitories-12660968

 

 

 

 

My understanding on how this virus often tracks, is that you are sick with it for a while, and you the either get well, or your worsen. That seems to be the case with others including the English PM . I suspect many of these workers will be relatively young and healthy so will also be less likely to develop complications. 


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  #2467403 21-Apr-2020 20:54
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Looking at some of the dates on some of the cases on their website, I do wonder if some cases haven't been when symptoms have occurred after 14 days. Which would indicate quarantining would need to be longer than just 14 days. The alternative is that people haven't got themselves tested until well after they started having symptoms, which is also a concern. People need to get tested as soon has they have symptoms. 

 

 

 

 

Be nice if they could provide more details like; date of contact, date of first symptom, date of test request and receive (they could be the same, early cases might not be), date of confirmation - in order for the general public to see trends of "you can be spreading the virus for up to x days, people generally wait x days to get a test and people are generally a-ok x days later" with some natural outliers.

 

They may have all this information and have decided the general public don't need this much detail.  


 
 
 
 


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  #2467404 21-Apr-2020 20:55
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Batman:it's not that simple ... we still have flights going in and out ... also from my understanding the govt has re-defined elimination as basically doing whack-a-mole

 

 

Yeah, the PMs definition of "Elimination" meaning zero tolerance to infections doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Didn't we have zero tolerance before Level 4?


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  #2467419 21-Apr-2020 21:20
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the thing is you cant eliminate it if you are still letting people into the country that have/potentially have it.

 

as long as you keep letting people in you will keep getting cases, but as long as they are quarantined for 14 days and those that test positive are looked after then the rest of the country has a chance of eliminating it.

 

the government is not going to stop kiwis returning home.




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  #2467457 21-Apr-2020 22:10
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not holding my breath though

 





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Batman:it's not that simple ... we still have flights going in and out ... also from my understanding the govt has re-defined elimination as basically doing whack-a-mole

 

 

Yeah, the PMs definition of "Elimination" meaning zero tolerance to infections doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Didn't we have zero tolerance before Level 4?

 

 

So elimination no longer means elimination? Has someone rewritten the definition? 





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not holding my breath though

 

 

 

 

 

I believe they've trained dogs to detect prostate cancer.  So it not entirely outside the realms of possibility. 





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  #2467479 21-Apr-2020 22:37
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  #2467481 21-Apr-2020 22:44
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Talked to an NZPost courier today. Said they are being tested daily in afternoon, maybe that's end of shift. It's good to hear.

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  #2467482 21-Apr-2020 22:46
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Technofreak:

 

 

 

So elimination no longer means elimination? Has someone rewritten the definition? 

 

 

 

 

It is not uncommon these days for governments to reinvent words.

 

Other fine examples of the grammatical nonsense produced include "earthquake prone building" and "self-isolate".






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