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  #2428194 27-Feb-2020 13:24
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Yeah but the time taken for it to reach Maersk levels of congestion has been a while.  


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  #2428256 27-Feb-2020 13:49
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From Washington Post:

 

 

First U.S coronavirus case of unknown origin confirmed in Northern California

 

 

There was a question asked in Trump's press conference as to why the US CDC had only conducted <500 tests in the US vs many thousands of tests conducted elsewhere in the world, the President deflected by stating that the assembled experts were doing the very best, and to ask them about that once he'd finished speaking.  Once he finished speaking, of course they filed out of the room without facing any questions. 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2428274 27-Feb-2020 14:11
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Another problem of a monolithic organisation being taken out of action as a single point of failure.  Just as China is a monolithic single point of global manufacturing failure. 

 

 

I shudder to think of the possible disruption - and it'll be very hard to get a grasp on what the true situation is.  There's just no way to switch supply to a non-chinese manufacturer of any raw material unless there's a prior global surplus production of that product, those non-chinese manufacturers will always give first priority to existing customers.  Split supply arrangements give a certain safety margin, but you're potentially still right up sh*t creek if all of your suppliers are in China - and I'd wager that's quite common as China has sold on price for the past 3 decades. If I think of the last commodity trading work I was doing, taking China out for more than a few weeks would have probably shut down the factories of most of our customers.  Then longer term, if China isn't back to business as close to normal very quickly, it'll take an awfully long time (most likely never) for customers to trust that source of supply.

 

For local manufacturers, they're probably not going to want to be immediately forthcoming about pending supply disruptions of what they produce using Chinese sourced materials until they know things with some certainty.  It's not good for business to send their downstream customers to competitors who may or may not be in the same position.


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  #2428323 27-Feb-2020 16:02
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  #2428337 27-Feb-2020 17:18
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Pandemic emergency plans of the 16 individual German province governments have been updated/prepared for immediate release.





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  #2428383 27-Feb-2020 18:00
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So much for the US response.  The confirmed case in California which can't be traced as he didn't travel and didn't have contact with someone infected was in UC Davis hospital for a week, with specialists who'd already dealt with Covid-19 pleading for him to be tested:

 

 

"Upon admission, our team asked public health officials if this case could be COVID-19. We requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, since neither Sacramento County nor (the California Department of Public Health) is doing testing for coronavirus at this time. Since the patient did not fit the existing CDC criteria for COVID-19, a test was not immediately administered,” said the email, which added that, "UC Davis Health does not control the testing process".

 

 

https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/

 

This information was known before Trump's press conference - where he insisted that there had been no community transmission within the US. 

 

They have deliberately not been testing - it's inconceivable that they'd only have cause to run <500 tests in a month, there are plenty of other diseases turning up at hospitals and clinics which could be mistaken for Covid-19 based on clinical signs, but they did not want to test them in case they got positive tests as has now happened. 

 

And that's what happens when a corrupt administration fires experts who do not vow full allegiance to their masters.

 

Waiting for more news on this - as he didn't contract Covid-19 out of thin air, so it is now a community spread disease in the US even if n=1, and unless they ramp up contact tracing including testing to do what they should have been doing weeks ago - then it's going to get out of hand in the US very quickly.


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  #2428388 27-Feb-2020 18:11
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Tinkerisk:

 

Pandemic emergency plans of the 16 individual German province governments have been updated/prepared for immediate release.

 

 

Yes - it's now a community spread epidemic (not traceable to point of infection) in Iran, Italy, Korea, Germany, Japan, and the USA. 

 

New countries reporting infections are: Algeria, Austria, Croatia, Romania, Norway, Greece, Brazil and Switzerland.  47 countries now have confirmed cases.


 
 
 
 


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  #2428405 27-Feb-2020 18:18
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America's patchwork, for-profit healthcare system poised to worsen coronavirus outbreak

Those with poor insurance have a financial disincentive to seek medical help — which will only worsen the crisis

Salon by Nicole Karlis

There's a reason that the story about a Miami man receiving a $5,195.28 NZD medical bill after getting a test for Coronavirus Disease 19 (COVID-19) is going viral: it is a relatable cautionary tale for Americans accustomed to our piecemeal, overpriced, for-profit healthcare system. Despite the good news that Osmel Martinez Azcue tested negative for the virus, Azcue is left with a significant financial burden. (The Miami Herald reported that hospital officials said he will only be responsible for $2,224 NZD, thanks to his limited insurance plan from National General Insurance. However, he will have to provide three years of medical records to prove that the flu, which he tested positive for, didn't relate to a preexisting condition.)

"How can they expect normal citizens to contribute to eliminating the potential risk of person-to-person spread if hospitals are waiting to charge us $5,195.28 NZD for a simple blood test and a nasal swab?" Azcue told the Miami Herald.

He's got a point. Certainly, Azcue's story foreshadows the kind of havoc expected once COVID-19 begins to spread in the United States, which experts now think is inevitable. Lacking the universal healthcare plans of other developed nations, the United States' piecemeal, for-profit system essentially disincentivizes the uninsured and under-insured from seeking out testing for COVID-19, or even going to the doctor if they are sick in the first place.

Supporters of Medicare for All, a universal healthcare system plan for the United States, have already pointed out how the potential for pandemic would be far less with such a system in place.

"I can't tell you how many times the people who handle your food — who are already overworked and underpaid — show up sick to work because our country refuses to guarantee healthcare or paid sick leave," US Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democrat-New York), a former bartender, wrote on Twitter.
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  #2428413 27-Feb-2020 18:31
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Those with poor insurance have a financial disincentive to seek medical help — which will only worsen the crisis

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Well even if your private insurance plan would cover the astronomical costs of a few weeks in ICU in the USA,  there won't be enough beds available.

 

The US system will absolutely worsen the crisis there.  The Johns Hopkins study cited by the POTUS showing the US as being very well prepared for pandemic response does not take that into account.  Human nature - facing a hospital bill that will bankrupt you, people will hold off seeking help until they're almost dead, meanwhile for the previous month they'll have been leaking virus all over the place.
Then there's the casualised workforce with no sick-leave entitlement and living day to day with no cash reserves, coughing over the salad buffet at fast food joints and hanging around the water cooler in the office.


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  #2428417 27-Feb-2020 18:49
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Had a consult with my surgeon today for a operation in May. He said if the virus arrives in NZ and the hospital gets really busy, to be prepared for elective surgerys like mine to be postponed for 6 months to a year.


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  #2428742 28-Feb-2020 11:33
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Slovakian PM is in hospital with fever and lung infection a week after a EU council meeting. Combined with the Iranian health minister going down with it going to be interesting to see the impact on the middle east and EU political class





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  #2428768 28-Feb-2020 12:01
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Beccara:

 

Slovakian PM is in hospital with fever and lung infection a week after a EU council meeting. Combined with the Iranian health minister going down with it going to be interesting to see the impact on the middle east and EU political class

 

 

Apparently the Pope isn't very well with a "cold", and the former Iranian ambassador to the Vatican has died from Covid-19.  This is just coincidence - the Iranian was ambassador years ago.  

 

Easter is coming up:

 

 

The Church of England has urged congregations to incorporate “simple precautions” at services to reduce the risk of infection from coronavirus.

 

In new guidance issued on Thursday, the church said current Government advice did not suggest that the sharing of a “common cup” during Holy Communion services should be suspended.

 

Long-standing government advice has been that ‘In a pandemic, it makes good sense to take precautions to limit the spread of disease by not sharing common vessels for food and drink.’ COVID-19 has NOT been declared a pandemic,” the guidance published on the church website said.

 

 

Churches really make me shake my head.


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  #2428771 28-Feb-2020 12:06
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  #2428800 28-Feb-2020 12:56
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Fred99:

 

 

The Church of England has urged congregations to incorporate “simple precautions” at services to reduce the risk of infection from coronavirus.

 

In new guidance issued on Thursday, the church said current Government advice did not suggest that the sharing of a “common cup” during Holy Communion services should be suspended.

 

Long-standing government advice has been that ‘In a pandemic, it makes good sense to take precautions to limit the spread of disease by not sharing common vessels for food and drink.’ COVID-19 has NOT been declared a pandemic,” the guidance published on the church website said.

 

 

Churches really make me shake my head.

 

 

You would think they would just tell the congregations to pray harder.

 

 


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  #2428828 28-Feb-2020 14:03
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You would think they would just tell the congregations to pray harder.

 

 

I'm reasonably confident that'll be part of the US response now that Pence is running their epidemic response.
As viruses don't evolve - but are all creations of God (under his eye) - then prayer must surely be the best way to get rid of them.

 

Pence doesn't believe science - that doesn't bode well IMO.

 

 


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