2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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Master Geek

#2429120 28-Feb-2020 23:27

Just visited my local Countdown and almost everybody was loading bottled water into their trolleys and a group of about 7 people in face masks storming around the local chemist buying god only knows what. I can’t believe I’m seeing.

mattwnz

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#2429121 28-Feb-2020 23:36

WolfChop:

Just visited my local Countdown and almost everybody was loading bottled water into their trolleys and a group of about 7 people in face masks storming around the local chemist buying god only knows what. I can’t believe I’m seeing.

I was joking with someone that I could see there being a run on the supermarkets earlier today. Maybe people don't have much faith that the government are handling it, as the government has said they only expect isolated cases to popup around the place. Next I can see a run on ATMs and banks for cash.

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#2429124 28-Feb-2020 23:50

There's not a great need for this. NZ has a lot of available resources, good water treatment, etc.

kingdragonfly

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#2429129 29-Feb-2020 04:37

US Vice President Mike Pence is exactly the wrong guy for this job

CNN Opinion by Michael D'Antonio

With America confronting a public health challenge over the coronavirus, President Donald Trump is again playing the denial game and, unhelpfully, has tapped Vice President Mike Pence -- a man who has repeatedly demonstrated his anti-science predilection -- to lead the government response.

Setting aside for the moment how much the (admitted germophobe) President values abject loyalty -- Pence is a cringe-worthy sycophant --- it's hard to imagine a worse choice for a job that requires respect for public health.

The vice president is so anti-science that in addition to his climate-change skepticism (check out this runaround he delivered when asked a straight question on the issue), he is known for penning, when he was running for Congress, what could be generously termed a nutty article that said, "despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill."

Pence stood up for tobacco and against settled science back in 2000, when his family owned convenience stores that made money selling smokes.

More recently, in 2015, he was apparently motivated by politics when, as governor of Indiana, he dithered while HIV spread among drug users in the southern part of the state.

The Indiana outbreak caught local officials by surprise, but eventually even the politically conservative sheriff of Scott County called on Pence to authorize a clean needle exchange program for intravenous drug users. Needle exchange programs are effective against such outbreaks. but some moralizers resist using them because they think they encourage addiction.

In Indiana, Pence took time to pray on the needle-exchange proposal. By the time he relented and authorized the program for 30 days, 75 people were infected. Follow-up studies determined that the delay and cuts in funding for HIV monitoring, on Pence's watch as governor, contributed to scores of infections.

Consider Trump's response to the novel coronavirus at the press conference Wednesday where he put Pence in charge -- and where the President played with the data to make it seem that the US faced no real threat -- and you hear echoes of Pence's HIV bungling. "There's no reason to panic" Trump said, "because we've done so good." (The United States has 60 confirmed cases of novel coronavirus, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said.)
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#2429130 29-Feb-2020 04:39

gzt: There's not a great need for this. NZ has a lot of available resources, good water treatment, etc.

Bottled water? No
Toilet paper? Yes

gzt

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#2429139 29-Feb-2020 08:12

Sidestep:
gzt: There's not a great need for this. NZ has a lot of available resources, good water treatment, etc.

Bottled water? No
Toilet paper? Yes

Hong Kong toilet paper robbery! The article makes clear that panic buying is the main issue in the supply problems there. I think the article misses something. It's possible that residents are preparing for an extreme possibility of local quarantine where you can't go out to buy toilet paper. That seems unlikely in NZ.

vexxxboy

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#2429146 29-Feb-2020 09:07

Hong Kong toilet paper robbery! The article makes clear that panic buying is the main issue in the supply problems there. I think the article misses something. It's possible that residents are preparing for an extreme possibility of local quarantine where you can't go out to buy toilet paper. That seems unlikely in NZ.

i mean people dont have friends who can drop off supply's for a couple of weeks , people have been watching to many end of days movies.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

Fred99

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#2429147 29-Feb-2020 09:08

gzt: It's possible that residents are preparing for an extreme possibility of local quarantine where you can't go out to buy toilet paper. That seems unlikely in NZ.

It might be unlikely, but if you're quarantined at home either because there are sick people in your house or because there are vulnerable people in your house and you don't want to bring infection in, then not having to go out and buy basics like toilet paper is a good thing.

I think it's a smart move for everybody in NZ to ensure they've got enough supplies for self-isolation at home for at least several weeks. Should have that anyway - for natural disaster preparedness.

Beccara

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#2429156 29-Feb-2020 09:31

gzt: There's not a great need for this. NZ has a lot of available resources, good water treatment, etc.

Yep and this is exactly what they were trying to hold off as long as possible, Wait for the spike in Muslim racism in the next few days like the Chinese have been experiencing. Will be interesting to see what sort of price gouging kicks in, I know we saw alot of it around mask's when it first kicked off

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#2429160 29-Feb-2020 09:46

This passenger on the flight has the right attitude, but we dont seem to be applying it, as per the latter part of this quote

Vincent-Goncalves, owner of Vinny's, a barber shop in Auckland's Mount Albert, isn't experiencing any of the symptoms - a fever, cough or difficulty breathing - but thought limiting contact is "the right thing to do", despite the impact it will have on his business.

"I've decided because of the fact I am in close contact with people all day, the responsible thing to do is close down until I know for sure.

"It will hurt my business and I don't know how I'll pay rent and my bills but I won't take the chance of possibly passing something onto people. Maybe it's overly cautious but [I] feel it's the right thing to do."

He is self-quaranting and will be visiting the doctor on Monday to be tested. He says he will remain in isolation until he receives the results.

The Ministry of Health issued an alert to passengers, advising them to contact Healthline if they had any concerns. Only the people who were sitting in the same row as the patient, or in the two rows ahead and behind, will be directly contacted. The crew will also be tested.

Vincent-Goncalves didn't believe this was acceptable because the infected person would have most likely moved about the cabin, gone to the bathroom and had contact with cabin crew.

"In my opinion, every person on that flight should be contacted ... that's what the flight manifest ... is for, emergencies like this."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/119912699/coronavirus-passenger-who-shared-flight-with-nzs-first-coronavirus-patient-closes-business-self-isolates

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#2429163 29-Feb-2020 10:10

It's all over folks, we need to buy food so we can stay safe in our homes for the next 6 months.

Too many humans are sadly irrational and frankly dumb even in 2020.

Meanwhile many more are dying of everyday illnesses.

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#2429164 29-Feb-2020 10:10

My partner is returning home tomorrow from Perth with his 82yr old sister who is a bit of a worrywart. So I sent them this info from the top of the customs website:

Coronavirus (COVID-19) update 28 February: Travel restrictions are in place at the border. Only travellers arriving in NZ on flights from Australia, Singapore and the United States will be allowed to use eGates. All other travellers are now required to have their passports physically checked by a Customs officer. We ask for your ongoing understanding and patience as we protect NZ from the Novel Coronavirus. More information.

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Fred99

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#2429165 29-Feb-2020 10:15

tdgeek:

"In my opinion, every person on that flight should be contacted ... that's what the flight manifest ... is for, emergencies like this."

MileHighKiwi

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#2429168 29-Feb-2020 10:22

I don't know why people are buying water, the stuff comes out your tap for free.

I'll shop online the next few weeks if this is what the supermarkets are going to be like.

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Master Geek

#2429178 29-Feb-2020 10:59

When the H1N1 happened, did NZ has such panic buying at the supermarket before? I can't remember at all.

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