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  #2500123 7-Jun-2020 17:43
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  #2500128 7-Jun-2020 17:51
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So they got them April, its now 7 June, finally decided to sue? 


 
 
 
 


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  #2500129 7-Jun-2020 17:53
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Just use the search term “substandard masks China” and you’ll discover news reports of similar failures from all around the world.





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  #2500130 7-Jun-2020 17:53
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Its between faulty goods or weeks later suddenly decided to sue?


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  #2500131 7-Jun-2020 17:57
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If what he said is true, then the whole recommendation needs to be rejected and be told to go away and try better. Even to a simple layman like me, this recommendation introduces too much risk. A person could catch covid at the departure airport and they wont have any symptoms for a number of days.

 

Not just that, but temperature-based screening is so horribly inaccurate it's little better than guesswork, it's essentially no screening at all. Potential travellers need to know that if they want to come to NZ they need to factor in 14 days quarantine before they get the run of the country. Sheesh, after our failure to enforce quarantine in Samoa in 1918 caused a catastrophic outbreak there you'd think we'd have learned something about the need for quarantining potential carriers coming into a non-resistant population.

 

 

 

The point of the travel bubble is to prevent the need for quarantine .  But it seems that quarantine doesn't fit the current business model for airlines or the international tourism sector, without adapting. Unless countries are covid free, or they are required to quarantine, then there is always going to be the risk of the virus getting back into the community, rather than being able to be stopped at the border. Currently there is no full proof way to detect all cases at the border, and if there was, it would never have got in in the first place. I can't understand why they aren't adapting their business model ,and looking at things like quarantine resorts, so that people travelling there can spend their first few weeks in a luxury retreat, before then continuing their journey around the country. 

 

 

 

Hopefully we have learnt from what happen in 1918, but I suspect not, due to the way this virus was able to easily get into the NZ community in the first place, despite all the restrictions and care that was being taken at the time to not let it in.

With this virus, it will take advantage of anyway it can to spread.


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  #2500132 7-Jun-2020 17:57
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Dingbatt:

 

Just use the search term “substandard masks China” and you’ll discover news reports of similar failures from all around the world.

 

 

My query wasn't if they are faulty but if they are, why does it take an age to find that?


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  #2500133 7-Jun-2020 17:58
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Dingbatt:

 

Just use the search term “substandard masks China” and you’ll discover news reports of similar failures from all around the world.

 

 

 

 

I recall someone on here posting a similar story several month ago from Europe. Not good. 


 
 
 
 


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  #2500134 7-Jun-2020 18:00
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tdgeek:

 

Dingbatt:

 

Just use the search term “substandard masks China” and you’ll discover news reports of similar failures from all around the world.

 

 

My query wasn't if they are faulty but if they are, why does it take an age to find that?

 

 

And my comment wasn’t aimed at your question (hence I didn’t quote it).





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tdgeek:

 

Dingbatt:

 

Just use the search term “substandard masks China” and you’ll discover news reports of similar failures from all around the world.

 

 

My query wasn't if they are faulty but if they are, why does it take an age to find that?

 

 

 

 

Who would be testing something like that, before using them?


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  #2500144 7-Jun-2020 18:26
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Who would be testing something like that, before using them?

 

 

The buyer/wholesaler. Its a facemask not the Space Shuttle, if you bought a supply of N95 facemarks would you not ensure they are N95 spec? Im not a Purchasing Officer but surely this is Purchasing Officer 101? Its China so check more, its Covid-19 so be sure.

 

The correct scenario is they arrived, and were found non compliant to N95 spec so sent back for a credit. Not sued an age later, which makes it seem a political issue.


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tdgeek:

 

 

 

The buyer/wholesaler. Its a facemask not the Space Shuttle, if you bought a supply of N95 facemarks would you not ensure they are N95 spec? Im not a Purchasing Officer but surely this is Purchasing Officer 101? Its China so check more, its Covid-19 so be sure.

 

The correct scenario is they arrived, and were found non compliant to N95 spec so sent back for a credit. Not sued an age later, which makes it seem a political issue.

 

 

 

 

But do they test masks in NZ, that have been certified to meet a certain standard? If you buy any product that is certified to a particular standard, then you wouldn't then get it tested, unless you suspect it is faulty. That is what the certification is for,as you are buying something that meets a certain standard.Then there would be a delay in tested, peer reviewed etc, to double check, during which time if there is limited stock worldwide you would have little choice but to continue using them, as any mask is possibly better than no mask.. 


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mattwnz:

 

tdgeek:

 

 

 

The buyer/wholesaler. Its a facemask not the Space Shuttle, if you bought a supply of N95 facemarks would you not ensure they are N95 spec? Im not a Purchasing Officer but surely this is Purchasing Officer 101? Its China so check more, its Covid-19 so be sure.

 

The correct scenario is they arrived, and were found non compliant to N95 spec so sent back for a credit. Not sued an age later, which makes it seem a political issue.

 

 

 

I agree lol :-)




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Batman:

Brazil stops publishing data https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12337861



Why didn't Trump think of that first?

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kingdragonfly:
Batman:

 

Brazil stops publishing data https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12337861

 



Why didn't Trump think of that first?

 

I suspect they are trying to provoke the WHO to suspend it for not complying with International Health regulations, then they can say its an international liberal plot against them....

 

 


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