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  #2505863 16-Jun-2020 15:53
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Sounds like exemption was granted on the 12th :(

 

 

it was granted on the 7th but they travelled on the 12th





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  #2505902 16-Jun-2020 15:56
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Sounds like exemption was granted on the 12th :(

 

 

it was granted on the 7th but they travelled on the 12th

 

 

 

 

I'm sure Bloomfield said the person died earlier than expected so they applied on the 12th and it was fast tracked so they could leave ASAP





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  #2505903 16-Jun-2020 15:57
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Air NZ resuming flights to China. They claim border controls on both sides mitigates the risk. Really? yeah right!!! 

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/121846714/air-new-zealand-resuming-flights-to-china-despite-new-outbreak





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  #2505904 16-Jun-2020 15:59
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vexxxboy:

 

 

Sounds like exemption was granted on the 12th :(

 

 

it was granted on the 7th but they travelled on the 12th

 

 

They arrived on the 7th, planning to spend the full 14days in quarantine, but the relative dies on the 12th, so they drive to Wellington on the 13th to help prepare the funeral....


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  #2505905 16-Jun-2020 15:59
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While NZ has closed borders this will be the new normal.

It's inevitable that there will be periodic low level outbreaks unless the country is prepared to accept very little in the way of imports or exports, which would have much larger consequences.

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  #2505910 16-Jun-2020 16:05
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Imports and exports are safe. Virus can only live for so long without host.
Anything that no one has touched for 3 days should be safe, and I believe with cardboard 12 hours.
It’s only incoming people who are the greatest risks.

If filling hotels with overseas people is the greatest priority then business that thrive on NZ customers will suffer.


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  #2505913 16-Jun-2020 16:08
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  #2505914 16-Jun-2020 16:08
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Handle9: While NZ has closed borders this will be the new normal.

 

+ This

 

The world is still awash with COVID, it will wash up here, and to expect it all to be stopped in Hotel rooms in Auckland is unrealistic...

 

what we need to demonstrate is that the systems for containment, tracking and tracing work to ringfence any outbreak and prevent any widespread transmission...

 

We are now having our first test of what has been built up over the last 3 months...


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"Covid 19 coronavirus: Supermarket cougher Raymond Coombs sentenced"

 

"A man who filmed himself coughing and sneezing on Christchurch supermarket shoppers during the coronavirus lockdown has today been jailed for 16 months. Raymond Gary Coombs, a 38-year-old roofer, was arrested after uploading a video on Facebook which showed him pretending to cough on shoppers at Fresh Choice supermarket in Barrington on April 6 – during the nationwide alert level 4 coronavirus lockdown."

 

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  #2505919 16-Jun-2020 16:11
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Yeah it will come out they stopped somewhere along the way, 800km trip without a stop is complete b/s.

 

I am so mad this has been able to happen, 14 days quarantine then test full stop no exceptions. 

 

So many people have lost so much and made so many sacrifices for this to happen is just beyond belief. There should be no acceptance or play down of this happening, oh we are still learning crap. Some body or bodies should be taking full responsibility about this it is just not acceptable under any circumstances.  

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

 





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  #2505920 16-Jun-2020 16:12
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freitasm:

 

Getting sick of "compassion":

 

"Covid 19 coronavirus: Two teens fled after being granted compassionate leave to attend funeral"

 

 

 

 

It would seem to be unravelling on us. If we don't get control now then the second wave will be in a matter of days. It is time for complete transparency but the government. We have risked too much to allow idiots to screw it up and that includes officials.





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  #2505926 16-Jun-2020 16:20
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I guess "We have got this" is now "we had this" or "we screwed this" 





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  #2505927 16-Jun-2020 16:21
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rugrat: Imports and exports are safe. Virus can only live for so long without host.
Anything that no one has touched for 3 days should be safe, and I believe with cardboard 12 hours.
It’s only incoming people who are the greatest risks.

If filling hotels with overseas people is the greatest priority then business that thrive on NZ customers will suffer.



Unless NZ 100% isolates itself people will travel to and from the country. There's going to be incidents, it's fairly naive to expect anything else.


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  #2505929 16-Jun-2020 16:28
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Unless NZ 100% isolates itself people will travel to and from the country. There's going to be incidents, it's fairly naive to expect anything else.

 

 

 

Not naive, this was completely avoidable





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  #2505934 16-Jun-2020 16:34
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JaseNZ:

 

Yeah it will come out they stopped somewhere along the way, 800km trip without a stop is complete b/s.

 

I am so mad this has been able to happen, 14 days quarantine then test full stop no exceptions. 

 

So many people have lost so much and made so many sacrifices for this to happen is just beyond belief. There should be no acceptance or play down of this happening, oh we are still learning crap. Some body or bodies should be taking full responsibility about this it is just not acceptable under any circumstances.  

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

 

 

 

Ashley Bloomfield was asked about this, commented that they did not stop at public facility - implied that they stopped to pee on the side of the road.

 

My diesel ute will easily do >1,000km on a tank on the open road.  Petrol cars - not likely.

 

That said, given the potential cost in human lives and massive economic cost if we have to lock down again, what happened seems incredibly dumb.

 

If you flew all the way from the UK to attend a funeral, you might be inclined to not want to miss the funeral if you had a bit of a sore throat, cough, whatever.

 

The UK is an extremely high-risk - the case fatality rate of 14% suggests that they're only finding ~7% of cases by testing, and you can extrapolate that 6% of the population either had - or currently has - C19.

 

The 100 or so coming in from the UK for the America's cup race - it's almost certain that they'll bring cases.  Shouldn't be happening IMO - they should postpone the AC for a year.

 

 


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