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  #2530229 28-Jul-2020 16:18
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Reassuring to see the worst-case-scenario approach being taken to the Korean positive test. 


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  #2530308 28-Jul-2020 17:24
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Reassuring to see the worst-case-scenario approach being taken to the Korean positive test. 

 

 

I assume this is related:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300068215/christchurch-supermarket-closed-over-covid19-concerns

 

 

A Christchurch supermarket has been closed due to fears it may have been visited by a person who may have been in contact with someone with Covid-19.

 

The Countdown supermarket at Spitfire Square, near Christchurch Airport, is closed on Tuesday to undergo a “deeper clean” than usual.

 

A Countdown spokeswoman said the order was made after the company was contacted by the Canterbury District Health Board “in relation to the movements of a person they are contact tracing”.

 

 

Fingers crossed on this. (No - I'm not superstitious) 


 
 
 
 


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  #2530360 28-Jul-2020 20:24
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>>beyond the powers granted to it by the courts.
Wow - This statement of yours is so badly Wrong.
It needs to be corrected.
We don't live in a police state(where your statement would be true)

Legislation grants the NZ Government its powers - NOT Courts.
The Courts only offer their Opinion(enforcing the wording/intent of the Legistration)when there is a dispute.

It is not the Courts role to 'create or change' law - that not their remit/role. (Unless we live in a police state)

The powers of the Government are granted by the Legislation/laws which the parties vote in, - in a Democracy.

 

I made a typo, smart guy. Parliament is of course the primary source of our laws. Court don't offer "opinions" -- they interpret legislation and the common (judge made) law. And their decisions are final. Look buddy, between a real lawyer (me) and you, I am fairly certain which of us understand the legal system better. Perhaps find another pit to play in?

 

Edit: For the eternally pedantic: "final" in the above obviously means that (1) the court's decision are to be followed unless a stay in granted and (2) it doesn't exclude any appeal rights provided for by law.

 

 

 

 


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  #2530364 28-Jul-2020 20:34
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Trump Ditches 'New Tone' On COVID-19, Pushes States To Reopen

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After many in the media noted Trump's somber 'new tone' on the coronavirus, the president ditched it just a few days later pushing states to reopen.


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  #2530367 28-Jul-2020 20:52
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COVID-19 & Mask Myths DEBUNKED!

It's Okay To Be Smart


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  #2530415 28-Jul-2020 23:05
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Saw similar video today with a doctor in the UK. Thankfully from someone who was previously spouting oddball remedies..

 

Connected to an oxy-sat. Showing 99% with one off. 99% with one on. 

 

And throwing any excuse about breathing or lack of oxygen out window.

 

 

 

Now as for countdown.. That's the store I moaned to and got their QR codes reinstated :) The downside to that was I did so as I frequent it a lot. 

 

Either I got really lucky, and it was the 1 day I didn't visit last week and just walked straight past skipping the chocolate bar stop for once. Or really unlucky combined failure - no QR scan that day, but either side. And unless cash used no eftpos to back it up. But in either case would have been some time after the departure

 

Shame. May have been another test case for sending my app a notification if I had the same date/timeframe




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  #2530562 29-Jul-2020 09:52
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this is a long term with no end in sight for the foreseeable future

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/28/europe/europe-coronavirus-resurgence-intl/index.html

 

mate in Belgium says tanks and army on the road 'everywhere' (probably an exagerration?)





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  #2530564 29-Jul-2020 09:57
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some Europe news https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jul/27/coronavirus-live-news-us-sees-5000-deaths-in-five-days-as-dr-birx-urges-some-states-to-close-bars

 

Andrea Bocelli - “I felt humiliated and offended. I could not leave the house even though I had committed no crime,” Bocelli confessed he disobeyed lockdown rules “because I did not think it was right or healthy to stay home at my age”. “Let’s refuse to follow this rule. Let’s read books, move around, get to know each other, talk, dialogue ...”

 

 





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  #2530566 29-Jul-2020 09:58
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meanwhile if you look at how difficult to get people to wear a mask, convincing people to get a vaccine might just be that bit harder. first novak Djokovic now Lewis Hamilton https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/27/lewis-hamilton-forced-to-explain-position-on-covid-19-vaccination





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  #2530568 29-Jul-2020 10:01
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over 50% of people living in slums in Mumbai have (or have had) covid https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jul/28/coronavirus-live-news-who-says-covid-19-is-easily-the-most-severe-crisis-it-has-faced

 

- doesn't say if they are sick or not. presumably most are fine?

 

 

Over half the people living in the slums of Mumbai have had Covid-19, according to a city-commissioned study released on Tuesday that raises fresh doubts about India’s official case numbers.

 

India is already the third worst-hit country after the US and Brazil, with nearly 1.5 million cases, though experts have previously said the lack of testing could mean the true tally is much higher.

 

Blood tests on 6,936 randomly selected people conducted by Mumbai’s city authorities found that 57% of slum-dwellers and 16% of non-slum residents had virus antibodies.

 

Mumbai, where about 40% of the population lives in slums, has reported just over 110,000 infections and more than 6,000 deaths so far.

 

The western city of 20 million people is home to India’s largest slum, Dharavi, where an estimated one million people live.

 

But deaths in the sprawling slum have not exploded, with local officials saying their aggressive efforts to stem the spread of the virus have been effective.

 

The survey results suggested asymptomatic infections were “likely to be a high proportion of all infections” and also indicated the virus death rate was likely to be “very low”, the study said.

 

The Mumbai survey came a week after an antibody study commissioned by the government suggested that almost a quarter of people in the capital New Delhi, home to 20 million people, have had the virus.





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  #2530571 29-Jul-2020 10:07
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Batman:

 

some Europe news https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jul/27/coronavirus-live-news-us-sees-5000-deaths-in-five-days-as-dr-birx-urges-some-states-to-close-bars

 

Andrea Bocelli - “I felt humiliated and offended. I could not leave the house even though I had committed no crime,” Bocelli confessed he disobeyed lockdown rules “because I did not think it was right or healthy to stay home at my age”. “Let’s refuse to follow this rule. Let’s read books, move around, get to know each other, talk, dialogue ...”

 

 

Yes, I read the article on the BBC. Quote of the day: "I am a certain age and I need sun and vitamin D."

 

Won't you think of old people who need sun and vitamin D, when doing your lockdown to protect old people from dying? /sarcasm





 

 

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  #2530580 29-Jul-2020 10:22
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Batman:

 

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Over half the people living in the slums of Mumbai have had Covid-19, according to a city-commissioned study released on Tuesday that raises fresh doubts about India’s official case numbers.

 

 

 

 

Hmmn.
The numbers dont add up, they are guessing . 7000 tests is a literal drop in the bucket there .

 

"Blood tests on 6,936 randomly selected people conducted by Mumbai's city authorities ...."

 

"Mumbai, where about 40 per cent of the population lives in slums, has reported just over 110,000 infections and more than 6,000 deaths so far."

 

so , in a population "  of over 23 million", 110,000 reported infections , 7000 random tests
In other words, they really dont know one way or the other.

 

Im not saying its not bad there , but if its truly out of control there , the death rate seems quite low


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  #2530638 29-Jul-2020 10:53
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@dejadeadnz - No need for the personal attack at me,
A simple 'yes I made a mistake' would' have been appropriate.

When you hold yourself out to be "the authority" - it's important that what you post is accurate.
What you posted (because of your mistake) was wildly inaccurate. - without correction it was very misleading to people.

Very poor form to launch a personal attack, when someone points out an error.



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  #2530663 29-Jul-2020 11:28
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Over half the people living in the slums of Mumbai have had Covid-19, according to a city-commissioned study released on Tuesday that raises fresh doubts about India’s official case numbers.



 


Hmmn.
The numbers dont add up, they are guessing . 7000 tests is a literal drop in the bucket there .


"Blood tests on 6,936 randomly selected people conducted by Mumbai's city authorities ...."


"Mumbai, where about 40 per cent of the population lives in slums, has reported just over 110,000 infections and more than 6,000 deaths so far."


so , in a population "  of over 23 million", 110,000 reported infections , 7000 random tests
In other words, they really dont know one way or the other.


Im not saying its not bad there , but if its truly out of control there , the death rate seems quite low



In Singapore they found well over 10,000 infections (i stopped checking after that, could have reached 20,000 but now who knows) in the South Asia foreign worker dormitory.

There was only one hospitalization and zero death. In these countries it's survival of the fittest. You not healthy you don't exist.




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  #2530765 29-Jul-2020 13:55
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But deaths in the sprawling slum have not exploded, with local officials saying their aggressive efforts to stem the spread of the virus have been effective.



57% infected of 40% slum dwellers of 20 million population = 4.5 million slum dwellers infected, not to mention the 16% of non slum dwellers.

And the local officials say that they've effectively stemmed the spread??? Smh

16% would make the city the most infected place in the world.

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