2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2531354 30-Jul-2020 13:33

Oblivian:

2nd PSR has gone + in Korea too.

So false positive scenario dropped.

Yeah, but the 5 household members in NZ have all tested negative...as have airport workers who would had contact with him...

Now it would be an interesting exercise to comb through the 14 hours of CCTV from Singapore airport to see if there was any close interactions.... and if it was possible to ID people he came into close contact with....as both potential sources or additional possible infected (but Its unlikely to be able to ID ppl from CCTV alone - not sure if they could use the P/port photo biometic data....)

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#2531366 30-Jul-2020 13:46

Victoria imposes new mandatory restrictions

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/victoria-confirms-mandatory-new-restrictions-after-devastating-covid-blow-c-1204545

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#2531393 30-Jul-2020 14:06

Fred99:

The story about the two young women who travelled from Brisbane to Melbourne to "steal clothes from boutiques", caught covid, returned to Brisbane via Sydney, stayed in the airport so they avoided NSW quarantine, caught a flight to Brisbane, lied to border officials...

They've been identified and their photos splashed all over the news in Australia. Jesus wept.

This is the pair:

COVID-infected Queensland teens threw 'illegal' party in Victoria

"Ms Muranga and Ms Lasu were expected to be charged on Thursday after Queensland Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll accused them of going to "extraordinary lengths" to conceal where they had been and carried out "criminal deceit".

One of the women has co-operated with detectives and public health officials, while the other is refusing to speak to authorities.

A third woman, who remains in hotel quarantine [in Victoria] and has not been diagnosed with the virus, has been fined $4003."

So dumb, So Stupid and SO SELFISH

I hope they get MAX fined and MAX jail term.

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#2531402 30-Jul-2020 14:25

This is a bit of a worry , if actually true .

Are some US testing facilities giving bogus test results
There has also been issues where testing facilities only report the positives , and not reporting the negatives

US : get positve results but never tested (when ACTUALLY tested get negative result)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP1l4NfFm3g

https://www.mysuncoast.com/2020/07/19/concerns-arise-some-receive-positive-covid-results-never-got-tested/

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#2531404 30-Jul-2020 14:32

The stupid is strong with these two.

Have to wonder if they're non believers and had party on purpose. But looking at the pics, I'd stab at Self proclaimed influencers doing the 'job'

And above, would have to be linked to the reported financial kickbacks in the HS. Which I thought only attributed to hospitalised cases

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#2531412 30-Jul-2020 14:40

wellygary:

Yeah, but the 5 household members in NZ have all tested negative...as have airport workers who would had contact with him...

Now it would be an interesting exercise to comb through the 14 hours of CCTV from Singapore airport to see if there was any close interactions.... and if it was possible to ID people he came into close contact with....as both potential sources or additional possible infected (but Its unlikely to be able to ID ppl from CCTV alone - not sure if they could use the P/port photo biometic data....)

They identified about 170 contacts - for one guy. That's terrifying. If we have low rates of testing when something does eventually beat us on probability then we'll be in trouble, which is why Bloomfield et al are so keen to get testing numbers back up.

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#2531420 30-Jul-2020 14:51

My son has come down with a cold. Nothing to major. Symptoms are cough, bit of a temp, feeling unwell. As per Bloomfields request to test if you're unwell I suggested he go for a test. My partner range healthline to see what they thought. They asked some questions and then said not to take him for a test, but to wait and see.

I thought the message was meant to be test test test if you feel unwell? If so, it is not getting through to the front line staff.

Different point, a guy on the ferry today hacked and sniffed and generally spewed his germs out everywhere on the ferry this morning. Not a single attempt to cough into his sleeve or hanky or anything. After all we've been through how can people STILL be this dumb when it comes to common sense hygiene? I imagine his workmates will be just as miffed as I was.

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#2531427 30-Jul-2020 15:01

I think across the ditch gives us means to pull up those types and point them at the official covid site to remind of their obligations.

The banners are still front and centre backed in yellow to stay home and do such things on the official site.

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#2531439 30-Jul-2020 15:14

duckDecoy:

My son has come down with a cold. Nothing to major. Symptoms are cough, bit of a temp, feeling unwell. As per Bloomfields request to test if you're unwell I suggested he go for a test. My partner range healthline to see what they thought. They asked some questions and then said not to take him for a test, but to wait and see.

I thought the message was meant to be test test test if you feel unwell? If so, it is not getting through to the front line staff.

Interesting, I developed a little bit of a sore throat on Monday evening and this transitioned to a runny nose, nasal drip and headache. Gave Healthline a ring and they directed me to go to the nearest testing centre. Did that pretty promptly and it was certainly an experience! They did say I was low risk but feel better for helping keep the statistics up.

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#2531460 30-Jul-2020 15:46

duckDecoy:

My son has come down with a cold. Nothing to major. Symptoms are cough, bit of a temp, feeling unwell. As per Bloomfields request to test if you're unwell I suggested he go for a test. My partner range healthline to see what they thought. They asked some questions and then said not to take him for a test, but to wait and see.

I thought the message was meant to be test test test if you feel unwell? If so, it is not getting through to the front line staff.

Different point, a guy on the ferry today hacked and sniffed and generally spewed his germs out everywhere on the ferry this morning. Not a single attempt to cough into his sleeve or hanky or anything. After all we've been through how can people STILL be this dumb when it comes to common sense hygiene? I imagine his workmates will be just as miffed as I was.

Normally one shouldn't feel unwell from a normal cold. At least I don't. I would ring them again and push to get a test. The more testing the better, they need to get the testing numbers up to detect any possible community transmission, and there is no cost. Unless there are a good number of tests being done, with people who have COVID type symptoms, then we could miss some of the people who do actually have the virus.

I do also wonder how long it will be before wearing masks on public transport such as ferries will be mandatory. It has already been recommended by one of NZs leading epidemiologists.

It is likely not IF, but WHEN, we will get COVID back in the community again.

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#2531464 30-Jul-2020 15:51

GV27:

wellygary:

Yeah, but the 5 household members in NZ have all tested negative...as have airport workers who would had contact with him...

Now it would be an interesting exercise to comb through the 14 hours of CCTV from Singapore airport to see if there was any close interactions.... and if it was possible to ID people he came into close contact with....as both potential sources or additional possible infected (but Its unlikely to be able to ID ppl from CCTV alone - not sure if they could use the P/port photo biometic data....)

They identified about 170 contacts - for one guy. That's terrifying. If we have low rates of testing when something does eventually beat us on probability then we'll be in trouble, which is why Bloomfield et al are so keen to get testing numbers back up.

Imagine Victoria, with over 700 cases in 1 day. That would be 140,000 close contacts based on 170 contacts per person! I don't think NZs system could cope with that.

I think Victoria could be locked down for a lot longer than NZ was, maybe even till the end of the year.

Also heard that Diplomats coming into NZ don't have to go into managed isolation. They can instead self isolate at home. Really surprised to hear this, but Ms Woods confirmed it on RNZ last night.

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#2531467 30-Jul-2020 16:00

mattwnz:

I think Victoria could be locked down for a lot longer than NZ was, maybe even till the end of the year.

You either do it right or be relaxed about it. One of those two would soon find out the consequences.

The other (doing it right) have some people later complaining about "I was held at home" and trying to turn it into a political circus.

I am glad we've done it right (so far).

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#2531468 30-Jul-2020 16:03

mattwnz:

Also heard that Diplomats coming into NZ don't have to go into managed isolation. They can instead self isolate at home. Really surprised to hear this, but Ms Woods confirmed it on RNZ last night.

Diplomats are "Special"
You can't look in their bags, you can't ticket their car, you can't touch them because they have Diplomatic Immunity.
All you can do is politely ask them to isolate themselves in their Embassy / High Commission.

You just have to hope that the diplomats coming in are reasonable and reasonably intelligent folks.

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#2531469 30-Jul-2020 16:04

mattwnz:

I think Victoria could be locked down for a lot longer than NZ was, maybe even till the end of the year.

Lockdown != Lockdown as everyone knows it. They only have 'restrictions'

Only as of midnight can they not visit friends. And the wider Victoria (not just Melb) is mask required and a likely explosion of 'Karens'

Prior an including today, They still go to work. School, Limited group meetings. And only tonight, does that change a little bit more.

Still relatively free. They just can't interact with people now. Like how we had to avoid people passing in the footpath and keep to family bubble.

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#2531475 30-Jul-2020 16:05

PolicyGuy:

You just have to hope that the diplomats coming in are reasonable and reasonably intelligent folks.

And you can bet some won't be...

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