Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 865 | 866 | 867 | 868 | 869 | 870 | 871 | 872 | 873 | 874 | 875 | 876 | 877 | 878 | 879 | 880 | 881 | 882 | 883 | 884 | 885 | ... | 1002
tdgeek
21391 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2539456 12-Aug-2020 15:02
Send private message quote this post

mattwnz:

 

tdgeek:

 

 

 

Im picking 50 cases, but as from today theoretically it cannot spread. Lets see what happens

 

 

 

 

Time will tell, but we may not know for up to 2 weeks now due to the incubation period. But it does largely depend on when the leak occurred, as to how many potential cases there could be, and how much it has spread.  Sounds like there is at least three more cases at a workplace, which is fine, as they can be traced back. Guessing tomorrows testing numbers will dwarf yesterdays number of under 2000.

 

 

Yep, Johnny give it to 3 they give it to 3, but with the panic up there now, most people will take care, that will stop the spread. We will see soon how far its gone, and tracing will grab the others, and that wont be perfect but at leats they can mop up the dregs later


wellygary
4915 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539469 12-Aug-2020 15:21
Send private message quote this post

tdgeek:

 

Im picking 50 cases, but as from today theoretically it cannot spread. Lets see what happens

 

 

That's certainly the likely ball park,  it will be interesting to see how long it takes to find the chain back to the (likely) breach at MIQ or the border .... - which I suspect will likely be an asymptomatic case...

 

The question will be how long it takes to stop finding new cases. ( and that is certainly going to be longer than 3 days...)


 
 
 
 


mattwnz
16722 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539472 12-Aug-2020 15:30
Send private message quote this post

Apparently they are looking into the possibility that this virus transmission was actually brought in through the cold store from international freight. That would be intriguing if that was the case. Potentially it could be both good and bad if testing shows this to be the case. Good in that we have identified case number zero and the source, and why potentially up to 4 staff may have got the virus. But not good when it comes to importing frozen things things from overseas. 


tdgeek
21391 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2539473 12-Aug-2020 15:31
Send private message quote this post

wellygary:

 

tdgeek:

 

Im picking 50 cases, but as from today theoretically it cannot spread. Lets see what happens

 

 

That's certainly the likely ball park,  it will be interesting to see how long it takes to find the chain back to the (likely) breach at MIQ.... - which I suspect will likely be an asymptomatic case...

 

The question will be how long it takes to stop finding new cases. ( and that is certainly going to be longer than 3 days...)

 

 

Yep. The 3 days going by the media seems to be a locked in period. Clickbait I guess. Its a period they want to see how far its got. They cant allocate 14 days if it turned out these 4 are the only cases when they first appeared. After 3 days we will know more


tdgeek
21391 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2539474 12-Aug-2020 15:33
Send private message quote this post

mattwnz:

 

Apparently they are looking into the possibility that this virus transmission was actually brought in through the cold store from international freight. That would be intriguing if that was the case. Potentially it could be both good and bad if testing shows this to be the case. Good in that we have identified case number zero and the source, and why potentially up to 4 staff may have got the virus. But not good when it comes to importing frozen things things from overseas. 

 

 

Glass half full, if it was via the frozen goods, then MIQ is ok, found a loose end to tidy up, and time to assess the other goods import locations.


wellygary
4915 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539475 12-Aug-2020 15:34
Send private message quote this post

mattwnz:

 

Apparently they are looking into the possibility that this virus transmission was actually brought in through the cold store from international freight. That would be intriguing if that was the case. Potentially it could be both good and bad if testing shows this to be the case. Good in that we have identified case number zero and the source, and potently why potentially up to 4 staff may have got the virus. But not good when it comes to importing frozen things things from overseas. 

 

 

Yeah i'm reading that too, but I would have thought air-freight was a low risk... more likely an interaction between cold store staff and someone transporting the goods rom airside....who may have  had an interaction with international aircrew...?

 

Do cargo jets bring their own loadmasters? or do they let host airport staff manage the loading....


mattwnz
16722 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539476 12-Aug-2020 15:34
Send private message quote this post

tdgeek:

 

wellygary:

 

 

 

That's certainly the likely ball park,  it will be interesting to see how long it takes to find the chain back to the (likely) breach at MIQ.... - which I suspect will likely be an asymptomatic case...

 

The question will be how long it takes to stop finding new cases. ( and that is certainly going to be longer than 3 days...)

 

 

Yep. The 3 days going by the media seems to be a locked in period. Clickbait I guess. Its a period they want to see how far its got. They cant allocate 14 days if it turned out these 4 are the only cases when they first appeared. After 3 days we will know more

 

 

 

 

Potentially it is up to 7, based on new possible cases at the workplace. But unless they can trace it to a source, they say they can't say what they will do . Although they obviously would be following a flowchart of the different permutations. But they have also said they will let people know before the 3 days is up, as they will let people know ongoing details as they learn more. 


 
 
 
 


mattwnz
16722 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539477 12-Aug-2020 15:39
Send private message quote this post

wellygary:

 

 

 

Yeah i'm reading that too, but I would have through air-freight was a low risk... more likely an interaction between cold store staff and someone transporting the goods rom airside....who may have  had an interaction with international aircrew...?

 

Do cargo jets bring their own loadmasters? or do they let host airport staff manage the loading....

 

 

 

 

I understand China blamed an outbreak on imported frozen food themselves. Considering the virus can survive being frozen, I would have thought it was certainly a possibility. But testing the coldstore and products maybe like looking for a needle in a haystack, depending on how large it is, and what the products are etc. It could be  bit of a nightmare situation for them to work out if that is the source, or it is someone else. . 


surfisup1000
4829 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539483 12-Aug-2020 15:44
Send private message quote this post

My son was luging in rotorua over the weekend. As were a bunch of Tauranga resident sports teams - who took the opportunity of visiting rotorua to have a crack at the luge. 

 

But government has not divulged where exactly the covid infectees visited. Not sure why, shouldn't be too hard to ask. 

 

Rotorua is probably a not a great scenario... people travel there from other areas to visit,  especially in the weekends.

 

The virus has been circulating around Auckland for a week or two now, my money is on a nationwide level 4 lockdown. People have been too complacent and life was basically normal the last several months.  This is the super spreader heaven!

 

Hoping I'm wrong though. 


mattwnz
16722 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539487 12-Aug-2020 15:54
Send private message quote this post

surfisup1000:

 

My son was luging in rotorua over the weekend. As were a bunch of Tauranga resident sports teams - who took the opportunity of visiting rotorua to have a crack at the luge. 

 

But government has not divulged where exactly the covid infectees visited. Not sure why, shouldn't be too hard to ask. 

 

Rotorua is probably a not a great scenario... people travel there from other areas to visit,  especially in the weekends.

 

The virus has been circulating around Auckland for a week or two now, my money is on a nationwide level 4 lockdown. People have been too complacent and life was basically normal the last several months.  This is the super spreader heaven!

 

Hoping I'm wrong though. 

 

 

 

 

Yes, due to the way NZ has been operating without any need to socially distance or wear masks, the virus R0  rate would be near it's highest rate. This is why testing, and picking up CT cases of the virus as soon as they occurred was so important, as NZ was very vulnerable in level 1.  We wanted to make sure we picked up case number zero, but the problem is that isn't what has occurred, unless the source of the virus is a product at the coldstore. 


mattwnz
16722 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539488 12-Aug-2020 15:57
Send private message quote this post

tdgeek:

 

mattwnz:

 

Apparently they are looking into the possibility that this virus transmission was actually brought in through the cold store from international freight. That would be intriguing if that was the case. Potentially it could be both good and bad if testing shows this to be the case. Good in that we have identified case number zero and the source, and why potentially up to 4 staff may have got the virus. But not good when it comes to importing frozen things things from overseas. 

 

 

Glass half full, if it was via the frozen goods, then MIQ is ok, found a loose end to tidy up, and time to assess the other goods import locations.

 

 

 

 

It would be good news, but it could be like finding a needle in a haystack to find the product responsible. They also probably need to look into how likely this is the case, when it maybe more likely that human error has occurred somewhere at the border, as happened in Oz . 


wellygary
4915 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539500 12-Aug-2020 16:04
Send private message quote this post

mattwnz:

 

It would be good news, but it could be like finding a needle in a haystack to find the product responsible. They also probably need to look into how likely this is the case, when it maybe more likely that human error has occurred somewhere at the border, as happened in Oz . 

 

 

The possible 0-case had been off work for 9 days,  so the chance of finding more surface virus now could be very remote...


Fred99
10965 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539507 12-Aug-2020 16:10
Send private message quote this post

mattwnz:

 

wellygary:

 

 

 

Yeah i'm reading that too, but I would have through air-freight was a low risk... more likely an interaction between cold store staff and someone transporting the goods rom airside....who may have  had an interaction with international aircrew...?

 

Do cargo jets bring their own loadmasters? or do they let host airport staff manage the loading....

 

 

 

 

I understand China blamed an outbreak on imported frozen food themselves. Considering the virus can survive being frozen, I would have thought it was certainly a possibility. But testing the coldstore and products maybe like looking for a needle in a haystack, depending on how large it is, and what the products are etc. It could be  bit of a nightmare situation for them to work out if that is the source, or it is someone else. . 

 

 

Some people in China initially blamed an outbreak on imported chilled salmon, China's National Health Commission did investigate - and ruled it out.  (IIRC C-19 RNA was found on a cutting board - but not on any salmon.

 

Sure it's possible, but if it came in on some frozen items then finding what it is or was seems like a pretty hard task - you can't swab everything to test it.


antonknee
438 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2539509 12-Aug-2020 16:13
Send private message quote this post

Bloomfield saying no close contacts from the Rotorua visit - however family visited a number of locations. Businesses being confirmed and notified first, before further details are made public. Family evidently visited Skyline (gondola and luge) and Heritage Farm apparently. For now, Rotorua staying at alert level 2.





Ant  Reformed geek | Referral links: Electric Kiwi  Sharesies  Stake


Fred99
10965 posts

Uber Geek


  #2539517 12-Aug-2020 16:21
Send private message quote this post

surfisup1000:

 

 

 

But government has not divulged where exactly the covid infectees visited. Not sure why, shouldn't be too hard to ask. 

 

 

 

 

This through from Ashley Bloomfield / press conference:

 

 

On the case in the community that travelled to Rotorua at the weekend. Bloomfield said they're confident the visit of the four family members - two who tested positive - hasn't resulted in any close contacts.

 

They're still taking a precautionary approach, as these people visited a number of locations, including eateries. They don't have specifics around what businesses and when.

 

They stayed at the Wai Ora Lakeside Hotel, and visited the Gondola

 

 

No idea why they don't have the specifics yet - but could be something like "we had a coffee in a cafe downtown - can't remember what it was called".  Maybe eftpos or CC records would show.


1 | ... | 865 | 866 | 867 | 868 | 869 | 870 | 871 | 872 | 873 | 874 | 875 | 876 | 877 | 878 | 879 | 880 | 881 | 882 | 883 | 884 | 885 | ... | 1002
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic




News »

Logitech introduce MX Anywhere 3
Posted 21-Sep-2020 21:17


Countdown unveils contactless shopping with new Scan&Go tech
Posted 21-Sep-2020 09:48


HP unveils new innovations for businesses adapting to rapidly evolving workstyles and workforces
Posted 17-Sep-2020 15:36


GoPro launches new HERO9 Black camera
Posted 17-Sep-2020 09:45


Telecommunications industry launches new 5G Facts website
Posted 17-Sep-2020 07:56


New Zealand ranks 3rd in world in GSMA index
Posted 15-Sep-2020 10:13


Trend Micro Security Suite adds web monitoring to prevent identity theft
Posted 14-Sep-2020 15:37


NVIDIA to acquire Arm for US$ 40 billion
Posted 14-Sep-2020 12:27


Epson launches its next gen A3+ colour EcoTank multi-function printer
Posted 10-Sep-2020 16:08


Sony launches three new native 4K SXRD home cinema projectors
Posted 9-Sep-2020 18:00


Catalyst Cloud brings Kubernetes-based open-source web hosting solution to market
Posted 9-Sep-2020 17:54


Verizon Connect eyes further growth in New Zealand
Posted 8-Sep-2020 09:26


PNY launches XLR8 gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 series powered by the all-new NVIDIA Ampere architecture
Posted 3-Sep-2020 16:39


NVIDIA delivers greatest-ever generational leap with GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs
Posted 3-Sep-2020 16:17


Weta Digital advances visual effects and animation in the cloud with AWS
Posted 2-Sep-2020 17:09



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.