2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2540910 14-Aug-2020 11:45

Fred99:

tdgeek:

Ugh, the family went to church in Mangere. Congregation has been told to all get tested

That's probably going to be a big problem. They're very social events, lots of singing (which is bad for spreading C19) and probably quite a large congregation.

I guess any infected last Sunday would be just at the stage now of starting to exhibit symptoms / test positive. A major C-19 outbreak in the Pasifica community would be devastating.

Up to 300 attendees apparently.

Edit: NZH saying that the confirmed case related to the church is a preschooler, the child of someone who works with one of the original cases?

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#2540913 14-Aug-2020 11:49

1101:

I just saw a photo someone took inside their local covid testing 'tent'

apart from the staff, there was no distancing and not everyone had facemasks , and far too many in the small testing tent at once .
Several people, some who suspect they may have it, standing together closely in the same testing tent ....
Surely to god , have 1 person in the testing tent at a time. Why is this all so hard to get right ?

A similar photo was on RNZ this morning.

I guess that when you move at speed in large operations it's remarkably hard to get things to go according to plan. It's also possible that someone considered this to be low risk I suppose - based on that 2 metres for 30 mins guidance.

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#2540915 14-Aug-2020 11:51

If the outbreak keeps getting worse throughout the day I wonder if they'll bother waiting till 5:30 to give us the lockdown update? They could have an emergency cabinet meeting if they thought it was necessary.

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#2540918 14-Aug-2020 11:53

antonknee:

Up to 300 attendees apparently.

I hope they can get on top of this - they'll need to be fast, as anybody infected last Sunday will be contagious now.

It (the Church) might also be the clue to the real index case.

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#2540921 14-Aug-2020 11:56

wellygary:

Dingbatt:

So that’s the same Tokoroa that’s on the road from Auckland to Rotorua?

Only if you go a weird way..

I'm guessing the Tokoroa case may have travelled and met up with the family in either Taupo or Rotorua.....

(I suspect its more than a casual contact... other wise they would have probably made an announcement)

Yes, my mistake. I was thinking the turn off State Highway 1 to Rotorua was after Tokoroa. Your explanation is feasible and would explain people in Tokoroa going and getting tested.

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#2540925 14-Aug-2020 12:04

Fred99:

antonknee:

Up to 300 attendees apparently.

I hope they can get on top of this - they'll need to be fast, as anybody infected last Sunday will be contagious now.

It (the Church) might also be the clue to the real index case.

Hopefully. For the last 3 days the virus should have trouble spreading by way of the L3. Thats a help. Anyone who has any vague link (went to same shop etc) needs to be isolating. My fear is being ordered to level 4 is an obvious course of action for people to obey, maybew for some, level 3 is "not so bad eh"

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#2540928 14-Aug-2020 12:06

Fred99:

antonknee:

Up to 300 attendees apparently.

I hope they can get on top of this - they'll need to be fast, as anybody infected last Sunday will be contagious now.

It (the Church) might also be the clue to the real index case.

The advantage they have at the moment is that Aucklanders ( should) be all at home.. (essentials excluded) so tracing and testing is easier...

but, its certainly gonna give the contact tracing teams plenty to do....

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#2540941 14-Aug-2020 12:17

MikeB4:
Rikkitic:
Without wishing to scapegoat the family, I have to ask how one group of people can spread so much disease so efficiently so far in such a short time.

1x2=2
2x2=4
4x4=16
16x16=256
256x256=65,536

No. It's exponential growth. 'Constant' doubling time.

Say 3 day doubling time, then 4 on day six becomes 8 by day 9.

Thankfully each of 256 cases does not generate 256 cases.

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#2540942 14-Aug-2020 12:19

Its spread all the way out to Torbay (Nth Shore) now (Glamorgan School) . I saw FB rumours of Glamorgan School last night but didnt see reports of that untill today

So pretty much one end of Ak to the other , not just Sth Ak .
The cats out of the bag.

Zepanda66

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#2540944 14-Aug-2020 12:22

1101:

Its spread all the way out to Torbay (Nth Shore) now (Glamorgan School) . I saw FB rumours of Glamorgan School last night but didnt see reports of that untill today

So pretty much one end of Ak to the other , not just Sth Ak .
The cats out of the bag.

But its still traceable to the south auckland cluster nothing to worry about here! /s

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#2540945 14-Aug-2020 12:33

1101:

Its spread all the way out to Torbay (Nth Shore) now (Glamorgan School) . I saw FB rumours of Glamorgan School last night but didnt see reports of that untill today

So pretty much one end of Ak to the other , not just Sth Ak .
The cats out of the bag.

Wrong Is there a steady and average coverage from one end of AKL to another? A sprinkling of infections in a consistent manner in the city? No. There is a trail of breadcrumbs mirroring the sources and thoer contacts travels in the city and beyond. Most of that they will find it harder to infect others and we have L3 on top of that. Lets hope the team of 5 Million does the right thing

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#2540947 14-Aug-2020 12:36

Gisborne is reporting a 600% increase in blocked sewer pipes since level 2 , concerned its unsustainable.

On the positive side its good that the original cases got tested when they did.
Before the crowds in coming weekend at the big games packed the stadium and bars, election rallies and all that baby kissing and such.
Its horrifying to imagine another cycle or two.
So I hope no one gives the family a hard time , quite the opposite 'Thank You For Getting Tested'.
Not being testing refuseniks.

I understand the exasperation , I share the oh not xxx expletives, as each new vector of the spread is revealed,
but its the virus fault doing what it does.
Just this xxxx virus with its asymptomatic stage, and high natural R value.

We have done it before though and its just grinding it out again.

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#2540949 14-Aug-2020 12:38

4 more cases at "Finance Now" office (6 total?) and 2 more cases at "Americold".

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#2540950 14-Aug-2020 12:40

Rikkitic:

Without wishing to scapegoat the family, I have to ask how one group of people can spread so much disease so efficiently so far in such a short time.

the same way how the pandemic spreads around the world

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#2540954 14-Aug-2020 12:42

Tokoroa case
could easily been caused by infected idiots escaping Auckland before the midday lock down & stopping there for fuel/bite to eat.

That was how Italy turned into a disaster.

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