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  #2449330 29-Mar-2020 11:54
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antonknee: A lot of people (in general, not specifically here on GZ) seem to be forgetting or misunderstanding the entire point of the lockdown - to reduce contact between people to the bare minimum. Hence only essential business (basic food, medicine) and their supply chains being open.

 

You're also forgetting that the country simply cannot fully shut down. There are hundreds of thousands of people right now working from home. This is not a holiday - life and business has to continue and the country has to keep running. Lots of people working from home in many ways are just as important as somebody working in an essential business - they are people keeping the country going.

 

Finding the balance with services such as couriers is difficult - as we see an increasing number of online booze sales as an example should how should couriers prioritise goods?

 

 

As above. This is not a forced holiday. Companies should close offices and people should work from home. If they can't work from home and not essential services, the companies can apply for a wage subsidy and keep their jobs - paid vacation or something.

 

If you are not a home-based business and need to access a warehouse to ship goods then you shouldn't be working - it's not essential and you'd obviously have to move around to go to work.

 

That would defeat everything. The idea is to STAY HOME

 

If someone can't get their gym equipment, improvise. It's not essential.





 

 

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  #2449875 30-Mar-2020 09:42
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How are we all? Good I hope

 

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I have about 40 orders on the books with Aliexpress suppliers Deilvery dates vary 10 days to 46 days fairly normal

 

I am a non essential.

 

Question. When those orders arrive in NZ and go to the post office for delivery as I am NOT a registered essential I assume they will not be delivered until we are back to normal? 

 

Is that the case? If so I think I will cancel them and get a refund rather than wait 





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  #2449905 30-Mar-2020 09:57
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I have about 40 orders on the books with Aliexpress suppliers Deilvery dates vary 10 days to 46 days fairly normal

 

I am a non essential.

 

Question. When those orders arrive in NZ and go to the post office for delivery as I am NOT a registered essential I assume they will not be delivered until we are back to normal? 

 

Is that the case? If so I think I will cancel them and get a refund rather than wait 

 

 

At this stage, it seems the deliveries are being made to all destinations that are possible/accessible. Indicative delivery times may be longer though.


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  #2450019 30-Mar-2020 12:50
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mattwnz: Any one know the process if washing machine or fridge dies and parts aren't attainable and a new one is required to live healthily and safely?

 

Looks like it's being discussed today. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/govt-considers-if-goods-such-fridges-heaters-can-bought-online-during-lockdown


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  #2450054 30-Mar-2020 13:42
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sbiddle:

antonknee: A lot of people (in general, not specifically here on GZ) seem to be forgetting or misunderstanding the entire point of the lockdown - to reduce contact between people to the bare minimum. Hence only essential business (basic food, medicine) and their supply chains being open.


You're also forgetting that the country simply cannot fully shut down. There are hundreds of thousands of people right now working from home. This is not a holiday - life and business has to continue and the country has to keep running. Lots of people working from home in many ways are just as important as somebody working in an essential business - they are people keeping the country going.


Finding the balance with services such as couriers is difficult - as we see an increasing number of online booze sales as an example should how should couriers prioritise goods?


 



Sure. I believe though that there are exemptions in place for those aligned to essential businesses eg what was posted up thread about PBTech. Gym equipment is not essential.

I’m working from home in an essential business (although not involved with essential work). So for me it’s life as usual for now, except I’m at home all day. I haven’t had a need to get anything extra personally. My company has spent the last few weeks making sure we had what we needed to work from home. Would imagine for most people it’s a laptop and a few other bits. For me, it’s my laptop and mouse, and my smartphone. That’s it.

To be clear - it is lockdown so only the bare essentials can and should open. It’s about reducing contact. But if it becomes apparent something else is essential I’m sure that will be looked at - as long as it can be done safely to help prevent spread.




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  #2450055 30-Mar-2020 13:46
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antonknee:Sure. I believe though that there are exemptions in place for those aligned to essential businesses eg what was posted up thread about PBTech. Gym equipment is not essential.

I’m working from home in an essential business (although not involved with essential work). So for me it’s life as usual for now, except I’m at home all day. I haven’t had a need to get anything extra personally. My company has spent the last few weeks making sure we had what we needed to work from home. Would imagine for most people it’s a laptop and a few other bits. For me, it’s my laptop and mouse, and my smartphone. That’s it.

To be clear - it is lockdown so only the bare essentials can and should open. It’s about reducing contact. But if it becomes apparent something else is essential I’m sure that will be looked at - as long as it can be done safely to help prevent spread.

 

Being discussed later today when PM does an update, I think its at 4pm


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  #2450082 30-Mar-2020 14:49
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antonknee:... if it becomes apparent something else is essential I’m sure that will be looked at - as long as it can be done safely to help prevent spread ...

 

Being discussed later today when PM does an update, I think its at 4pm

 

 

Yeah so I hear. I believe so far on the list is the halal meat situation, heaters/blankets/winter gear, online deliveries of contact free retail - possibly a few other bits and pieces? The Epidemic Response Committee has also started meeting, and although I think they are focusing on the health system response at first, the general restrictions will be on their radar too.

 

I guess I would rather go through harder restrictions for a shorter time, than have the restrictions be more liberal but go on forever and forever - only to potentially end up needing to take the hard line anyway. The time for softly-softly is long gone IMO. End of the day, the important thing really is trying to slow/stop the spread.





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  #2450096 30-Mar-2020 15:07
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antonknee:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess I would rather go through harder restrictions for a shorter time, than have the restrictions be more liberal but go on forever and forever - only to potentially end up needing to take the hard line anyway. The time for softly-softly is long gone IMO. End of the day, the important thing really is trying to slow/stop the spread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO unless they can be satisfied they have eradicated it, which I think is possible, I think the lockdown will be for a while. Otherwise we are going to be reliant on a vaccine that may take a long time. But we have too many people not following the lockdown rules, especially it appears around mass accommodation that have a lot of people living in them, where there have been several stories today, including a party during lockdown. I had to report someone today who thought they were allowed to move into a new house during the lockdown, including moving large items of furniture etc. I also have seen people having conversations on the street, 2 metres away, when it should just be a hello, and move on. I would like to see the adverts being more direct, Instead of the word 'avoid', I think they need to say 'You must not', as some people need to be directly told what they need to do, or not to do.


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  #2450109 30-Mar-2020 15:20
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  #2450149 30-Mar-2020 16:13
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Does anyone know where I can find an adapter to connect a Dual Link DVI monitor to a laptop that has only a conventional VGA plug?

 

My wife is working from home and wants to use one of my old Apple monitors on her work laptop.






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  #2450214 30-Mar-2020 18:07
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antonknee:


 


 


 


I guess I would rather go through harder restrictions for a shorter time, than have the restrictions be more liberal but go on forever and forever - only to potentially end up needing to take the hard line anyway. The time for softly-softly is long gone IMO. End of the day, the important thing really is trying to slow/stop the spread.


 



 


IMO unless they can be satisfied they have eradicated it, which I think is possible, I think the lockdown will be for a while. Otherwise we are going to be reliant on a vaccine that may take a long time. But we have too many people not following the lockdown rules, especially it appears around mass accommodation that have a lot of people living in them, where there have been several stories today, including a party during lockdown. I had to report someone today who thought they were allowed to move into a new house during the lockdown, including moving large items of furniture etc. I also have seen people having conversations on the street, 2 metres away, when it should just be a hello, and move on. I would like to see the adverts being more direct, Instead of the word 'avoid', I think they need to say 'You must not', as some people need to be directly told what they need to do, or not to do.



Totally agree they need to be more hardline on the ads. I know they’re being a little more forceful in the pressers - eg Mike Bush saying “you must not” today, but I suspect the adverts reach more people.




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  #2450217 30-Mar-2020 18:10
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So I believe I just heard on One News that online orders of products required to work from home and things like heaters will now be allowed. However I can’t find any reference to this online.

Edited to add: reported here online https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/government-announces-more-essential-businesses-including-heater-and-whiteware-sellers. Will allow heaters, blankets, whiteware, computers etc





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Technofreak:

 

     

  1. So far as gym equipment goes there are other ways to exercise, ...
  2. ... I'm sorry I don't get your point about not running outside. Why not run outside? ...
  3. ... Common sense needs to be applied. ...

 

 

 

 

     

  1. 🆗 Totally agree, there are. However, gym equipment helps decrease your living radius & by extension your risk of exposure.
  2. 🐾 A lot of us still have to go walk the dog, that's why the reference to starting at 40s. As to the reference of going outside, in the movie, there are zombie like creatures roaming around killing humans. These zombies were created by a vaccine for measles. 😊 I wouldn't want to be outside then. Sometimes, the weather outside is also kinda crappy. Again, running outside increases your living radius & by extension your risk of exposure.
  3. Common sense is not so common. 🤷

 

 

 

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  #2450294 30-Mar-2020 20:40
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ANglEAUT:

 

Technofreak:

 

     

  1. So far as gym equipment goes there are other ways to exercise, ...
  2. ... I'm sorry I don't get your point about not running outside. Why not run outside? ...
  3. ... Common sense needs to be applied. ...

 

 

 

 

     

  1. 🆗 Totally agree, there are. However, gym equipment helps decrease your living radius & by extension your risk of exposure.
  2. 🐾 A lot of us still have to go walk the dog, that's why the reference to starting at 40s. As to the reference of going outside, in the movie, there are zombie like creatures roaming around killing humans. These zombies were created by a vaccine for measles. 😊 I wouldn't want to be outside then. Sometimes, the weather outside is also kinda crappy. Again, running outside increases your living radius & by extension your risk of exposure.
  3. Common sense is not so common. 🤷

 

 

 

🤗

 

 

I'm sorry I cannot take your reply seriously. If I didn't know any better I'd say you were taking the Micheal.

 

Did you not look up 5BX, take a look here http://fit450.com/HTML/5BX_Intro.html  and tell me this takes up more radius than using gym equipment. The run can be done by running on the spot.

 

Zombies really. I'd love some of whatever you're smoking. 😇





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  #2450307 30-Mar-2020 21:03
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antonknee:

So I believe I just heard on One News that online orders of products required to work from home and things like heaters will now be allowed. However I can’t find any reference to this online.

Edited to add: reported here online https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/government-announces-more-essential-businesses-including-heater-and-whiteware-sellers. Will allow heaters, blankets, whiteware, computers etc



After I managed to find an online store that's happy to ship!

Good move though imo.




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