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#2490919 25-May-2020 10:19

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Is it this week they will review L2? I can see tweaking down to L1 in not too much time

I don't think we can ever be in level 1 for the foreseeable future. Maybe 1.5

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#2490920 25-May-2020 10:21

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tdgeek:
Is it this week they will review L2? I can see tweaking down to L1 in not too much time

I don't think we can ever be in level 1 for the foreseeable future. Maybe 1.5

Oh so it seems we could. According to the definition yes we could. There is no level 0 so I guess it's going to be 1 - 4 for the foreseeable future.

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#2490932 25-May-2020 10:30

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I don't think we can ever be in level 1 for the foreseeable future. Maybe 1.5

Oh so it seems we could. According to the definition yes we could. There is no level 0 so I guess it's going to be 1 - 4 for the foreseeable future.

PM stated that they will review each two weeks and tweak it, she also said it has no defined end, to me that implies it will be tweaked downwards as needed. It will evolve to L1, rather than switch to L1 in the futre?

1.5? Years in L2? The tourist people want open border to AUS in quick time, so does Todd Muller. I see L2 for another month or two, then L1. The only issue is if we get an outbreak and that wont happen here, it could happen via AUS if we open that border too soon

Open border will be an election issue

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#2493118 27-May-2020 19:50

What happened to frankv regular graphs? I miss them :(

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#2493168 27-May-2020 21:06

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What happened to frankv regular graphs? I miss them :(

I must admit I got a bit bored ... there's not much happening now. I'll do one tonight.

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#2493170 27-May-2020 21:13

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I must admit I got a bit bored ... there's not much happening now. I'll do one tonight.

Fair enough! Please dont feel pressured to do one.

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#2493201 27-May-2020 22:06

In response to the desperate pleas of my horde of adoring fan.... ;)

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#2493648 28-May-2020 13:30

28 May , 8 remaining actives...

There were 9 cases announced from 8-11 May 2020 , so potentially we could see this group start to be declared recovered over the weekend if they were mild cases. (14 days+ 10 days symptom free)

So close we can taste it....

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#2494335 29-May-2020 13:22

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28 May , 8 remaining actives...

There were 9 cases announced from 8-11 May 2020 , so potentially we could see this group start to be declared recovered over the weekend if they were mild cases. (14 days+ 10 days symptom free)

So close we can taste it....

And down to just 1 active case today!

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#2494388 29-May-2020 15:10

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wellygary:

28 May , 8 remaining actives...

There were 9 cases announced from 8-11 May 2020 , so potentially we could see this group start to be declared recovered over the weekend if they were mild cases. (14 days+ 10 days symptom free)

So close we can taste it....

And down to just 1 active case today!

Yip, Its finally over,

That case will likely be declared recovered in the next day or so...

Then the pressure will go on the government to move to Level 1 ( or at least make level 2 seem like level 1)... I can't see them being able to maintain the current restrictions beyond the 8th June review

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#2494402 29-May-2020 15:32

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Yip, Its finally over,

That case will likely be declared recovered in the next day or so...

Then the pressure will go on the government to move to Level 1 ( or at least make level 2 seem like level 1)... I can't see them being able to maintain the current restrictions beyond the 8th June review

Agree. I think theyd like to keep the end date, just to show they are in control and won't waver, but relax more stuff, to basically bring it forward anyway. Same thing as you suggest, in a psycologoically better way off if you get what I mean. It looks good to see it through, but you can eat the almost level 1 cake as well

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#2494420 29-May-2020 16:00

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Yip, Its finally over,

Well, not really. We still have closed borders, and a bunch of people without jobs, and and another bunch with disrupted schooling, and a bunch of businesses close to or actually insolvent.

We, the fortunate, can go back to life as usual, traveling and socialising and recreating and churching and all those other good things. But, for quite a number of people, those things (maybe excluding churches) are out of reach. And we've still got to pay for the bailout.

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#2494433 29-May-2020 16:24

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wellygary:

Yip, Its finally over,

Well, not really. We still have closed borders, and a bunch of people without jobs, and and another bunch with disrupted schooling, and a bunch of businesses close to or actually insolvent.

totally agree, we now have a huge economic and social hole to dig ourselves out of,

My comment was directed at the medical/health angle, getting to 0 cases is a huge milestone and I think it will give some hope and confidence for the future, which is looking pretty grim economically,

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#2494435 29-May-2020 16:27

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Well, not really. We still have closed borders, and a bunch of people without jobs, and and another bunch with disrupted schooling, and a bunch of businesses close to or actually insolvent.

We, the fortunate, can go back to life as usual, traveling and socialising and recreating and churching and all those other good things. But, for quite a number of people, those things (maybe excluding churches) are out of reach. And we've still got to pay for the bailout.

That's quite a negative view. Many, maybe all, of those things were going to happen regardless of how strict or not we went. Just look abroad at whats happening in the UK, US and Sweden.

What is great is we are now in a position to start tackling those issues and focusing solely on them. Yes we have to do it with closed borders (although trade still comes and goes...not as easily I accept). We are in a position where, if we so choose, we can open our borders. Not that I want that right now cause of whats happening abroad (some exceptions like the Pacific Islands), but we have that choice because we'd be accepted abroad.

We've done something quite unique and whether other countries would admit it or not they will be very envious of where we are.

I feel very fortunate and am thankful we have worked ourselves into this opportunity.

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#2494575 29-May-2020 18:52

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totally agree, we now have a huge economic and social hole to dig ourselves out of,

My comment was directed at the medical/health angle, getting to 0 cases is a huge milestone and I think it will give some hope and confidence for the future, which is looking pretty grim economically,

Exactly. The grim outlook is the result of the virus. But we don't have a grim outlook of wave after wave of it. I feel that the grimness needs to be seen as a reality, its not bad. It for most countries is way worse. Bad is ok, we can deal with it. Terrible, shocking and 6+ months later no better off, we have avoided

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