Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20
20962 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2494578 29-May-2020 18:55
Send private message quote this post

nzkc:

 

 

 

That's quite a negative view. Many, maybe all, of those things were going to happen regardless of how strict or not we went. Just look abroad at whats happening in the UK, US and Sweden.

 

What is great is we are now in a position to start tackling those issues and focusing solely on them. Yes we have to do it with closed borders (although trade still comes and goes...not as easily I accept). We are in a position where, if we so choose, we can open our borders. Not that I want that right now cause of whats happening abroad (some exceptions like the Pacific Islands), but we have that choice because we'd be accepted abroad.

 

We've done something quite unique and whether other countries would admit it or not they will be very envious of where we are.

 

I feel very fortunate and am thankful we have worked ourselves into this opportunity.

 

 

1000%

 

When, after all this, if our biggest issue is if we can get to the Gold Coast next week, that is huge. Businesses are open, they will get more freedom vey shortly, possibly more aid, we can rebuild from right now, not on 6+ months like everywhere else


3772 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2494606 29-May-2020 19:44
Send private message quote this post

nzkc:

frankv:


Well, not really. We still have closed borders, and a bunch of people without jobs, and and another bunch with disrupted schooling, and a bunch of businesses close to or actually insolvent.


We, the fortunate, can go back to life as usual, traveling and socialising and recreating and churching and all those other good things. But, for quite a number of people, those things (maybe excluding churches) are out of reach. And we've still got to pay for the bailout.



That's quite a negative view. Many, maybe all, of those things were going to happen regardless of how strict or not we went. Just look abroad at whats happening in the UK, US and Sweden.


What is great is we are now in a position to start tackling those issues and focusing solely on them. Yes we have to do it with closed borders (although trade still comes and goes...not as easily I accept). We are in a position where, if we so choose, we can open our borders. Not that I want that right now cause of whats happening abroad (some exceptions like the Pacific Islands), but we have that choice because we'd be accepted abroad.


We've done something quite unique and whether other countries would admit it or not they will be very envious of where we are.


I feel very fortunate and am thankful we have worked ourselves into this opportunity.


I didn't mean to be negative. I really meant that now is not the time time to sit back and congratulate ourselves. Yes, we've done extremely well, and going down other paths would have been much worse. But we still have some work ahead of us.

 
 
 
 


20962 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2494622 29-May-2020 19:51
Send private message quote this post

frankv:
I didn't mean to be negative. I really meant that now is not the time time to sit back and congratulate ourselves. Yes, we've done extremely well, and going down other paths would have been much worse. But we still have some work ahead of us.

 

I agreed with him and I agree with you. We can enjoy where we are as well as be careful. Assuming we are near free of the virus, probably less need to be careful and lets get the economy going, but that Tasman Bubble is where e need to be careful. Winston wants it, Tourism wants it, Health doesnt. If the election wasn't in 3 months we can probably just debate it, but the demand will be pushed heavily now, irregardless pf the health =, and therefore economy risks


874 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2494623 29-May-2020 19:56
Send private message quote this post

frankv:
I didn't mean to be negative. I really meant that now is not the time time to sit back and congratulate ourselves. Yes, we've done extremely well, and going down other paths would have been much worse. But we still have some work ahead of us.

 

I agree with you. With one small exception. I think it is worthwhile to congratulate ourselves. We should celebrate the wins! And yes, we absolutely have much ahead of us.


20962 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2494626 29-May-2020 19:59
Send private message quote this post

nzkc:

 

frankv:
I didn't mean to be negative. I really meant that now is not the time time to sit back and congratulate ourselves. Yes, we've done extremely well, and going down other paths would have been much worse. But we still have some work ahead of us.

 

I agree with you. With one small exception. I think it is worthwhile to congratulate ourselves. We should celebrate the wins! And yes, we absolutely have much ahead of us.

 

 

Yes, with all the political bantering/bagging, and aside from those that flouted, it was a collective effort, cliche or not


3772 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2497634 3-Jun-2020 20:03
Send private message quote this post

 

I think/hope this will be the last graph I post... I'll only post another one if things take a turn for the worse.

 

 


neb

2427 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2497722 3-Jun-2020 22:26
Send private message quote this post

frankv:

I think/hope this will be the last graph I post... I'll only post another one if things take a turn for the worse.

 

 

Well, I dunno, posting a graph every now and then showing a nice flatline would be kinda reassuring...

 
 
 
 


874 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2497815 3-Jun-2020 23:34
Send private message quote this post

frankv:

 

 

I think/hope this will be the last graph I post... I'll only post another one if things take a turn for the worse.

 

 

So what you're saying (well the graph is saying) is that our 1 case will be 0 cases tomorrow ;-)

 

The averages you've applied have been quite impressive because its actually been what has played out in the stats. So kudos to you for working that out and showing it.




765 posts

Ultimate Geek

Subscriber

  #2503929 13-Jun-2020 01:47
Send private message quote this post

Updated comparison between Japan, USA & several European countries, with NZ included for contrast.  Shows per capita cases in UK, Sweden and USA ~two orders of magnitude higher than in Japan, with the 'better performing' European countries having broadly similar rates, in between.  More significantly though, the latter are showing a slow but steady decrease in daily rates of new cases, whereas in the US & Sweden there has been little to no reduction in rates of new cases over the last 2+ months.  Rates of new cases in the UK have come down very slowly over the last month but remain well above those in Germany et al.

 

The rates of new cases in Japan reduced significantly between mid-April and mid-May but disconcertingly have not decreased since then.  The rate of new cases (~0.3 pm/day) is presumably considered manageable, especially since several European countries appear to consider a rate 10x that manageable. 

 

There are of course many factors that make direct comparisons tenuous (testing rates, case definitions, ...).  Per capita test rates in the US & European countries are though now generally on a par with, and in many cases higher than the rates for NZ & AU.  Even the UK has now tested 50% more people per capita than NZ, and the US ~15% more. 

 

The per capita testing rate in Japan is much lower.  Despite that, the case fatality rate in Japan (CFR 5.4%) is only moderately above that in most of the European countries (4% - 4.9%, Norway 2.8%) and is comparable with the US (5.7%).  The per capita fatality rate in Japan is much lower than in those countries.  Given Japan has the highest proportion of elderly people in the world, under-counting of cases in Japan seems unlikely to be much different from the situation in the European countries and the US.  Fatality rates in Sweden (13.3%) and the UK (14.4%, ~same as Italy) are a lot higher (in the latter case, partly due to overwhelmed hospitals).  The data therefore suggest that the per capita case rate margin between Japan and the other countries is real.  Although many people have been working from home and social distancing, Japan had no lockdown and subway trains etc continued to run.  One of the main contributors to the lower case rates appears to be the use of face masks in Japan.

 

The case fatality rates for NZ and AU (both 1.4%) are of course significantly lower than any of the above.

 

   

 

 

 

 


3772 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2505654 16-Jun-2020 11:02
Send private message quote this post

Interesting free-to-read article in the Economist on the changing demographics in the USA, in particular that Republicans are increasingly patients.

 

 




765 posts

Ultimate Geek

Subscriber

  #2507020 17-Jun-2020 23:23
Send private message quote this post

Taiwan revises criteria for release from isolation.  Subject to two negative tests at least 24 hours apart, can now be released after 10 days from symptom onset/initial positive test.

 

https://www.cdc.gov.tw/En/Bulletin/Detail/RqdalfZQWQctgc6rsgh5SA?typeid=158

 

On June 17, the Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) announced that confirmed cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) can be released from isolation if they meet all three conditions listed below.
1. The lapse of time between a confirmed case’s hospitalization in isolation ward and symptom resolution should be at least three days;
2. The case has two consecutive negative results of respiratory specimens obtained at least 24 hours apart (nasopharyngeal and throat, or sputum, specimens should also be collected on the same day the testing conducted for release from isolation, and the specimens must test negative for SARS-CoV-2);
3. There should be a lapse of ten days after the onset of symptoms (a lapse of ten days after an asymptomatic patient tested positive the first time).


3772 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2514019 28-Jun-2020 16:37
Send private message quote this post

 

The current situation, as reported today, so as usual I'm assuming it actually relates to yesterday.

 

NB Changed the secondary (blue) "active cases" axis scale by a factor of 10 from my previous graphs. Also, I haven't been tracking the MoH reported count of active cases, hence a straight line from 1 on 3rd June to 20 yesterday.


388 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2514069 28-Jun-2020 17:07
Send private message quote this post

Thanks for doing these graphs but I think the one you posted above is pretty meaningless. All the new cases are held at the border in effect and are a function of arrivals in the country. If we get non-border related cases then extending the graph would make sense.


879 posts

Ultimate Geek

Subscriber

  #2515641 1-Jul-2020 13:24
Send private message quote this post

ABC news site today had this graphic for Victorian States Covid - Local vs Imported figures.

 

You can see why they are locking down!

 


4684 posts

Uber Geek


  #2515645 1-Jul-2020 13:35
Send private message quote this post

A very good site for data on OZ cases is

 

https://www.covid19data.com.au/

 

 


1 | ... | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic





Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Soul Machines joins forces with the World Health Organization
Posted 13-Jul-2020 18:00


Chorus completes the build and commissioning of two new core Ethernet switches
Posted 8-Jul-2020 09:48


National Institute for Health Innovation develops treatment app for gambling
Posted 6-Jul-2020 16:25


Nokia 2.3 to be available in New Zealand
Posted 6-Jul-2020 12:30


Menulog change colours as parent company merges with Dutch food delivery service
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:53


Techweek2020 goes digital to make it easier for Kiwis to connect and learn
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:48


Catalyst Cloud launches new Solutions Hub to support their kiwi Partners and Customers
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:44


Microsoft to help New Zealand job seekers acquire new digital skills needed for the COVID-19 economy
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:41


Hewlett Packard Enterprise introduces new HPE GreenLake cloud services
Posted 24-Jun-2020 08:07


New cloud data protection services from Hewlett Packard Enterprise
Posted 24-Jun-2020 07:58


Hewlett Packard Enterprise unveils HPE Ezmeral, new software portfolio and brand
Posted 24-Jun-2020 07:10


Apple reveals new developer technologies to foster the next generation of apps
Posted 23-Jun-2020 15:30


Poly introduces solutions for Microsoft Teams Rooms
Posted 23-Jun-2020 15:14


Lenovo launches new ThinkPad P Series mobile workstations
Posted 23-Jun-2020 09:17


Lenovo brings Linux certification to ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation portfolio
Posted 23-Jun-2020 08:56



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.